Testing house to come to order members will take their seats, this is will entire the chamber, the surgent at arms will close the doors. Members in this judiciary switch off their electronic devices. Todays prayer will be opened by representative Gene from Battle field, we would ask all members to stand for a prayer and for our guests in the gallery to stand for a prayer and to remember remain standing for the pledge of allegiance, pay and representative Farmer Battlefield isn't here yet, so representative Dickson will you be glad off for a prayer this afternoon? Our kind father in heaven, we pause for a moment before this session for the general assembly and give thee thanks and ask the heavenly father to please hear our prayer of thanksgiving for the magnificent blessings that we enjoy as citizens of this great state, and as elected officials, to serve the various districts from which we can. To accept that thanks father, for the wonderful folks who are here to assist us. For the principle clerk and her staff, for the staff that works on the bill and does so much work so many occasions to assist us. For those who keep the building clean, for those who help the youth across our State come and enjoy an experience here. Please accept our thanks Father for the wonderful freedoms and liberties that we enjoy, and hear our prayer to ask for thy help, to properly safeguard those freedoms and liberties and pass them to the next generation. We humbly pray in the name of Jesus Christ amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice follow up The gentleman from Gaston Representative Torbett, is recognized for a motion. Mr. Speaker journal for April 15th, has been examined and found to be correct. I'm moving it be approved as written. Representative Torbett moves that the journal of April 15th be approved as written. Those in favor will say I, those opposed will say no. The I's have it. The journal is approved as written. We have a nurse and a doctor today Today's doctor, no not yet, not yet, okay. Introduction to Billls resolutions, the court will read. House Bill 899, Representative Moos, state temporary assistance to needy families, sons, boys and girls talking. Reparations. House Bill 900, Representative Luky, Hailey and Cunningham eliminate corporate tax court triggers. Rules counter and operations of the House House bill 901 Representative Raddell, Hager, Dobson and Goodman. Act of business income tax exemptions? Finance. House Bill 902 Representatives Blackwell, Horn, Bryan, and Hanes, Transforming Principal Preparation? Education. On page 12 a favorable appropriations. House bill 903, Representative Sain, child text flexibility [xx] municipal live ups. Local government in favorable finance. House bill 904, representative Raddell Bison, Hamilton and Ailer[sp?]. Drainage improvements funds. Appropriations. House Bill 905, Representative S. Bowes, Alexander and Hannah. Land Cemetery commission, funeral service board. Regulatory 4. House bill 906, Representative Aaron Moore Hamilton, Goodman and Alexander qualifies business investment credit. Judiciary 2. Messages from the Senate clear the clerk will read.
Senate Bill 123 committee substitute second edition a bill to be entitled act of men in uniform, fraud rate transfer to adopts amendments for people who have uniform, law commission in 2014 and make related council threading and technical amendments as recommended by the General Statutes Commission. [xx] Now I affirmatively confirm on judiciary two. Senate bill 154 commitee substitute second edition the bail to be entitled net clarify to operating of remitive and prosecution, the sudden drug or alcohol related offences committed by [xx] expresing a jog in alcohol related overdose on individual will see its medical assistance for an individual expressing drug and alcohol related overdose to avert additional requirements and division that must be met before the limit immunity is established. To provide that a person shall not be subject to arrest in revocation partial release probation parole post release. Bill is referred to Judiciary II. Senate bill 183, first edition the bill to be entitled enact to eliminate confinement in response to violation for sentence under the structure, sentencing are recommended by the North Carolina sentencing policy and advisory commission. Bill is referred to judiciary II. Senate bill 233 first edition the bill to be entitled to provide for automatic extraction of certain records of a person who is charged the charges against a person who dismissed as a result of identity theft and mistaken identity. The bill is referred to the committee on judiciary too. Senate bill 69 first edition of bill to be entitled to act to allow severance or [xx] rejection monetary claims, small claims Acts services processed on will meet, sommmary of the rejection standard that are round our surveyor, monitory claims to be, continue to alias and crossest four months the bill is referred to the committee on judiciary three. Senate bill 311, first edition of bill to be [xx] to ensure integrity of March records presented for registration 311. The bill is referred to the committee on judiciary three. Senate bill 488 committee substitute second addition the bill to be entitled on act to amend uniform, in a state some more support act. Build further committee Judiciary three. Senate bill 675, first edition of bill to be [xx] or limited to frequency of parole was used for inmate convicted of sexual violence offenses. Rules, Calendar, and Operations of the House. Members the house will come to order please, give members an idea what our schedule is. In a few minutes we're going to do the community college elections, but before I do that so that members will have time to review bills, we had a number of bills that came out of the committees today, and the Chair intends to have a number of those, so what I'll do is to go through those, and if at any point that I read a bill number if members want more time before raising an objection just give me a signal of some kind and let me know will do that Representative Cleveland, Hitman[sp?] Speciality[sp?], and wheat mayer[sp?] recognise send forth the committee report the clerk will read. Representative Cleaveland means the [xx] and White Myre, homeless security military, veteran affairs committee report, house bill 340. Weakened burial state venerable cemetery favourable, callender and this is one the chair in case they added in todays calendar, again this is just a the house will come to order I know some of the members who want to pay attention to this. I was house bill 340 weekend burials states better cemeteries. The chair turn out that the calendar's objection. Seeing none call orders, house call may continue. House bill 595 military expenses [xx] certifications requirements favorable callender and without objection of todays calendar is there objection. There's none so ordered House bill 471 RAC home land security security and legislative security favorable and we referred to rules current and operations of the house. Bills referred to rules current committee on rules counter on operations of the house. House Bill 558 reserves
a National Guard Military Affairs Commission favor of committee substitute on favor of original bill. Original bill in favorable calendar committee substitute calendar. Any objection to this bill being added to today's calendar? Mr. Speaker the bill number again? Representative Howard it's House Bill 558. The short title was reserves and National Guard Military Affairs Commission. Any objection to that? Hearing none so order. Representative collin and Lignlon[sp?] are recognized for the same report, committee report, the Clerk will read. Representative Collins and Linglon[sp?] state your committee report house bill 370 certain local government and State Health Plan, favorable committee substitute on favor of original bill. Original bill on favorable counter of committee substitute is re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations. for a rule 38. House bill 401 authorize data sharing for NCELDS favorable committee substitute on favorable original bill. The original bill on favorable calender committee substitute calender any objection on this bill being added to today's calender again that is House Bill 401 authorized data sharing for NCELDS. There's none so ordered the clerk may continue. House Bill 122 and counties town or State Health Plan favour of committee substitute on same opposition of the bill referred to appropriations. Bill has been referred to the, actually original bill on favorable county committee substitute be referred to the committee on appropriations. House Bill 154 South Port and State Health Plan favorable committee substitute on favorable reason of bill we'll refer to appropriations. The original on favorable calendar committee substitute we'll refer to community on preparations, house bill 190 says health plan modifications that is Ab, favor of community substitute on favorable recent bill [xx] refer to appropriations original bill in favour of counter committee substitute calendar, this is a bill that Chair has added to todays calendar unless there's objection. Any Objection? It's House bill 190 state health plan modification, looks like it's an agency bill, and the further appropriations restricted would be countered and would be countered for today. Representatives Brawley, Sane, Hastings, Martins, Setzer and Szoka are recognized to send forth committee reports, the Clerk will read. Representative Brawley, Saine, Hastings, Martin, Setzer and Szoka. Finance Committee Report House Bill 183 Repeal Map Act favorable. Calendar and any objection to being added to today's calendar? House bill 183 repeal Map Act, hearing none, so ordered. House bill 332, national gas economic development infrastructure, favorable committee substitute number two on favorable committee number one. Original bill on favorable counter committee substitute counter, this is a bill the chair intends the end of today's calendar, is there objection? There's none so ordered. Representatives Jones and Luis will recognize to send forth the committee report the clerk will read. Representative Jones and Louis, House Bill for two standing municipal elections even years favorable? Calender, and is there an objection of this bill being on today's calender? If none, so ordered. House Bill 421 full vacancy on Board of Commissioners by party chaplain, favorable? Calendar and its objection this bill being added to the base calender? If none, so ordered. Members there's a couple of recognitions the Chair wants to do. First off, our doctor of the day and our nurse are on the floor. We have Dr. John Willeford, from Charlotte North Carolina, and Miss Stephanie Leach who is our nurse today from Rowley. Thank you all for being with us. We're glad to have you. Members before we get into the election, we have a couple of recognitions the Chair wants to make also. On motion of Representative Larry Bill of Duplin [xx] Wayne County the chair is happy to extend the currency in the gallery to the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, a few hours please stand so that we can welcome you with us today. Are those gentlemen in the chamber with us? Are they in the senate, look out representative Bill let me know when they return. On behalf of representative of [xx] from Orange County, the chair is happy to extend the cautious of the gallery to representatives, sponsors and the event hosts. from the North Carolina science festival as they celebrate their fifth anniversary this year of the State Award Science festival and celebrate legislature. Please join me in welcoming these folks and recognize them, I think they may have had the robots out there earlier. Would you all please stand. and our motion of representative Brawley of Macklenberg County, the chair is happy
to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Tom Brue who is the President of the Professional Fire fighters and paramedics North Carolina would you please stand so we can welcome you as well, thank you, and finally I believe we have three school groups with us, and I'll introduce them individually, first off we have a group from Saylum, Baptist Christian School from Winston Saylum? Would you all please stand, so that we can welcome you. Thank you for being with us. We also have a group from the New Century International Elementary, and from Fayetteville, North Carolina would you all please stand so that we can welcome you. And we also have a group from Midway Elementary Election to North Carolina with us. Would you all please stand so we can welcome you? Thank you for being with us. Mr. Speaker. What purpose does the General from Guston Representative Todd Beak rise. For a motion Mr. Speaker. Gentleman may state his motion. I move to have the have the serial referrals to judiciary one, and rules counter on operation of the house be stricken from Senate Bill 372, short title Renewable Energy Safe Harbor and be referred to Finance. Without objection, so ordered. Mr. Speaker, what purpose does gentleman from Guston rise? For an additional motion Mr. Speaker. The gentleman may state his motion, just a moment. The house will come to order. members would take their seat, Jamal recognise for motion. Thank you Mr Speaker, Move the house bill for short time on clear file on land aircraft system law be removed from Judiciary one in river[sp?] thirty, judiciary four. I've got an objection. Forward. Members we're going to move to the state board community colleges election is our first business in the house, would all the state members take your seats. if want to have a conversation would encourage you to go outside one of these doors, and do that not to stay on the floor, and the court points out if your not on the floor you will not receive a ballot, so if you would like to vote on this election please have a seat. Representative [xx] the gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNeill is recognized to explain the process for the election again the house will come to order the chairman has a vote. Thank you apparently have Mr. MembeR[SP? But anyway the House Committee or Community Colleges made on April 4th day to receive the nominations of these elections. There're two seats on this State Board Community Colleges in the house will fill today, there're four nominees for these two seats and you should have on your desk their information if you got any question about them. Their names are Mathew Tod Johnson, Dr. Robert J. Landry, William P. McBrader Jr. And James Janny Joddy Jr. No further nominations may be received from the floor. Once the balance are distributed, two candidates should be selected by placing an X beside their nominees names, members should both print their name and sign the ballot speaker will order the ballots passed out. Do members have any questions before ballots are distributed? If not would direct the sergeant at arms to distribute the ballots again members if you would take your seats during this process it would make the process a lot easier. That does include that would also include representatives McGrady and Sane by the way, as well as representative Hager, and Almore and Holloway and Connie not playing favorites. To what purpose doesthe gentleman from Brunswick Representative Aisle arise? Point of order. The gentleman may state his point of order. Do we understand that you must vote for two or your ballot will not count as we do in the board of governors. That is correct, this is like board of governors election and that you must vote for two and no more than two, if you vote for more than two or less than two your ballot will be void. You also must print your her name on the line and then sign your ballot. Believe it or not after these
explanation on the board of governors election some, I'm not going to say who, but someone didn't follow the instructions and they get their vote counted so and without objection rule 12 be suspended. [xx] [xx] are there any members who are still voting? If you would raise your hand [xx] alright the sergeant at arms is directed to retrieve the ballots. Representative Brawley is your ballot still seat. The teller committee will be representatives Brondy, and McMail as well as representatives Johns Walford, George Graham and Piers. Once those gentlemen have turned your balance in, if he would simply retire briefly, we're going to do the counting off in the Speaker's conference room off to the side. have all the ballots being returned to the surgent in arms? is any member has a ballot to raise them here, seen no hands raised I direct the surgent in arms to take the ballots along to the with the telecommunity, and there other rim[sp?], members here is what we're going to do to other candidates, we're not going to have any recorded votes, we do have two local bills that will not be recorded vote they will be simply be voice votes, their first one one is going to be House Bill 311 which is the ABC store election term of rerun, the chair is not aware of any amendments it's the only reason we need to be a recorded vote the other one is house bill 421 which is still vacancy on board of commission by party, Chairman candidate the house representative Reese Michael Bill. So we could dispose those two bills, while we focus forward for our publishers, General from Cambridge and the representative from Fordrush[sp?]. Is it possible to group those two bills bills? I'm sorry. [xx] up glad to I think there, I can't real and bill board was the one to handle real boards gushing yesterday, I don't know if there was? It wasn't. Okay let me ask if there is Objection to House bill 311, and House bill 421 being grouped, any objection to that? Hearing none will take those,
for what purpose general from Mai Wayn[sp?], Representative Ford rise? To determine the tittle of those bills. Yes Sir. House bill 311 is ABC store election town of Leland, and the other one is House bill 421 fill vacancy on board of county commissioners a party and charter. For what purpose. Just a moment. For what purpose does the lady from New Hanem[sp?] Representative Hamilton rise? Inquire of the Chair. The lady may state her inquiry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm just curious, I think we can dispose off these bills very quickly. I don't see any valid reason to group them together. The discussion yesterday I believe is on House 390. We are going to House bill 390, will be taken up, that is a recorded vote. That's an electronic vote. The reason I did this two, is we don't have to elect recorded vote and I don't want to tell a committee to have to miss the vote. Remember what happened when we tried that in the Board of Governors election. We're not going to do that again. So Representative Ford, does the gentleman have an objection to the bills being grouped? Yes because I would like to vote no on one and yes on the other. Fair enough. Alright. House Bill 311, the court will read. Representative Hamilton and Hailer. House Bill 311, appeal to be on tied to that to the town of Leland to hold city ABC store election and to repeal the revision to exhibit location of new ABC stores in Branson[sp?] County within seven miles of municipalities in exist ABC stores adjacent of North Carolina and X The lady from Tehama[sp?] Representative Hamilton is recognised to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr speaker. This is a local bill that is specific to the town of Layland it simply gives the [xx] county citizens the opportunity to vote whether or not they want to have a ABC store in the Leyland jurisdiction as well as repealing some laws that were put in place back in the late 90's and particularly seven mile distance requirement that was also specific to Leyland statute so we are asking for your support and Representative Iler if there is anything to add be glad Further discussion for the debate? For what purpose does the gentleman from Brawzwick representative Iler rise? As a remaining member of the delegation from Brawzwick and to share, the town Reven with recent have them, I can conquer I have a sound of what she said Further discussion for the debate? If not the question for the house is passage of House Bill 311 on its second reading, those in favor will say I, I Those oppose will say no in the of the chair the ayes have it, the aye's view have it. House Bill 311 having passed its Second reading will without objection be read a third time. General Assembly of North Carolina enact Further discussion further debate? If not the question for the House is the passed of house bill 311 on its third reading, those in favor will say I, Aye Those oppose will say no the ayes have it. House Bill 311 passes it reading will be sent to the Senate, House Bill 421. The clerk will read Representative Res house bill 421 appear to be entire of enter private vacating member be appointed, general citizen of North Carolina you're next. For what purpose does the gentleman from Lee, Representative Reives rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker and this is a completely local bill for Chatham County and allows us to fill the vacancy by the party for whatever party vacancy we have on our commission board, help us join 42 other counties that fall under the same statutes with will appreciate your support. Further discussion, further debate if not, the question for the house pass the House Bill 421 on the second reading, those in favor will say aye? Those opposed will say no? The ayes have it, House Bill 421 passes the second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General Summer of Mac Clonian Act. Further discussion, further debate if not the question for the house is the passage of House Bill 421 on its third reading. those in favor will say aye? Those opposed will say no? The ayes have it, House Bill 421 passes its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. there was a couple of modifications to today's calender we've added several bills house bill 429 short title amend medical malpractice health care provider definition. That bill will be removed from today's calendar, and calendared for I believe Wednesday is there objection? There's none so ordered. In Addition to the counter for members going node house bill 81 short title is expand 1% $80 a rate for mill machinery this bill is calender come out of finance
I believe yesterday calender tentatively from Monday night. Chair will answer that bill be added to today's calender, so objections? Objections. The gentleman from Durham has made Objection. Motion would be to add the debate on today's calendar that will be a recorded vote, so we'll take that one up once the folks return from counting the votes. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Luebke[sp?] rise? I rise an objection to House bill 81. Correct. Moving forward. That's correct. You are saying let's wait for our colleagues to get there to discuss that motion? Correct we wont since Objection was noted what we would do is the Chair would attain the motion is going to come from Representative Martin who's going to be moving I believe to have the bill to today's calendar and at that time the gentleman could debate the motion whether to add the bill and at that time we would have a recorded though to have the bill to today's calendar. [xx] We have an [xx] from another school group who has come in, we have some folks from the, I believe we recognize one group, there's another group 4th graders from the new century international elementary from Stanford would you would the all came in would you all please stand so we can welcome you the house will resume just a moment [xx] [XX] The House will
come back to order, sorry I had to go help count ballots. Got him right correct. The house will come to order, I'm about to recognize Representative McNeill to read the results of the of the elections. The gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNeill is recognized to report the results of the election for the Board of Community Colleges. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Me and Chairman Brody and the Tele Committee met and counted the votes of the members of the House, the vote 111 for Johnson, 48 for Landrey, 70 for Mike Blair and 3 for Woody. So, Mr. Chairman I would like to make the following motion. The gentleman is recognized for a motion. Mr. Speaker presented to GM 115 D-2.1B4 I move that the House confirm the election of Mr. Johnson and Mike Blair to the State Board of Community Colleges for a term of 6 years beginning July 1st, 2015. The gentleman from Randolph Representative McNeill bill moves that the two gentlemen who have the highest vote totals representative Mr Johnson and Mr Mcbraire[sp?] be elected to the brought to the state board of community colleges. First of all we have a voiced vote then we will have an electronic vote those in favor of the motion will say aye. Aye. Those opposed will say No. The Aye's have it the motion is adopted. Now the vote will be confirmed electronically. All those in favor of said motion will vote A those opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the motion is adopted. The gentleman from Wake Representative talked and the chair itself, the gentleman tried o vote, Gemoh wish your record is fading out. Gentleman be recorded having invaded up. Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from number one representative [xx] rise/ Right ware Mr. Speaker. Gentleman of you will record and also invading out the motion. Member, the vote the gentleman just mention Mr. Mark Bria Mr. Johnson having received the majority vote elected to the board of State Board Community colleges, their chair holders and message be sent to the senate notifying their body is the same. I realize gentleman with the say in the gallery today I don't see him here today, I think they were here early but okay, we were, right before we before we went into to at ease we had a motion, but I believe that motion pertained to the county I believe action the gentleman from white representative Moron is going to make the motion to add the bill to the bill to the calender. Does the gentleman from Damasco have an object? Mr. Speaker after discussion is I'm going to remove my objection to second reading today and object the third reading. Very well is there any other member who wishes to object to the bill being added to today's calender? Hearing none so order to added yo today's calender. Representative [xx] is the gentleman ready to proceed on 390. House Bill 253 the clerk will read. Representative Faircloth Doctry Boss and Harly house bill 253 appear to be entire tied to supervision of the justice re investment you are next. For what purpose does the gentleman from [xx] representative of [xx rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill thank you Mr. Speaker, and we had a good discussion on this bill yesterday, there is an amendment that I believe Representative Glazier wants to send forth. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier rise? Thank you Mr' Speaker, to send forth an amendment. The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment, the clerk will read. Representative Glazier moves to amend the bill on page 3 line 16 by rewriting that line to read. The gentleman from Cumberland has the floor to debate the amendment.
Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. Members, this was the issue we talked about yesterday in the first section of the bill that deals with adding a waiver of all extradition rates as a standard condition of probation. Representative Faircloth and I talked yesterday and he was very kind and sent me a message and we were able to talk with the community corrections folks, I've talked back with Representative Faircloth and I think an agreed amendment which eliminates this is a standard condition from mist miner cases still keep him from filling the cases and we'll do more cases on the senate side about it but seem's to me that at least be a good compromise on I will urge adoption of the amendment for what purpose does the gentleman from Gillford representative fairwal rise acceptable with the amendment further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is adoption of amendment one set forth by representative Glacier those in favor vote I those oppose vote No the court will open the vote. Court will lock the machine to record the vote 108 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative the amendment is adopted the gentleman from Gilford representing Faiwall has the for further debate on the bill discussion yesterday this is a good bill requested by the department and I ask that you support it further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is passage of house bill 253 on it's third reading those in favor will vote I those oppose vote No the court will open the vote [xx] representative Will there's a gentleman who wish to vote on this bill the court will lock the machine to lock the vote 109 having voted on the affirmative and in the negative house bill 253 passes it's third ring amendment is recorded in gross and bill will be sent in the senate as the gentleman from Aston wish to be recorded some of you recorded as having voted I house bill eight cooperate representative Jones Allan Brown and Jordan house bill eight appeal to be entittled from Act to restore Partisan will state right judicial elections. [xx] on North Carolina in X. For what purpose does the gentleman from Rockingham, Representative Jones rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House this is a very simple bill, I understand that it may not be a unanimous bill but is very simple to understand. I think toward 2004 state why judicial races in this state were partisan races, that was changed and this bill would simply change it back. We had good discussion about this in the election's committee and I understand that those who would be opposed to this will probably say that well judges should be non-partisan or [xx] people are not any more or less partisan because they have to list their party affiliation on the ballot but the fact of the matter is that local parties, state parties everyone else who works for particular candidates, and there're people in every county that are out there passing out their ticket of which party they want their people to vote for on the judges. So what we're trying to do is just to be open, and transparent, and honest about it, you might have noticed that in the last election there was about a 500, 000 vote drop off between US Senate race, and the states land or Supreme Court races, in fact these are very important races and if you are like me every election year at election time people are calling you, wanting to know something about the judges. You can argue that well they should do their homework and they should try to find out everything that they can as opposed you can argue that with our races should be nonpartisan, that all races should be nonpartisan, but the fact of the matter matter is people deserve to have more information. The other fact of the matter is that we had 17 judges running for a court of appeals race last time and folks that's not good. It's not good to have someone elected to an office with a relatively small percentage of the vote. And folks that's the role of political parties. Political parties exist for one reason, so that there can be primaries, so there can be a pairing down of those candidates that advance to the general election. And so at the end of
the day it is more of a democratic [xx] process if you will, and you don't have 17 people on the ballot and the possibility of somebody getting elected with 10 or 15% of the vote. So this is all about transparency, it's all about saying, lets give the voters a bit more information, and quite frankly if they don't want to use that information information or if it doesn't matter to them, they don't have to use it, just like they don't have to use in any other race. So I think it's a common sense thing to do. I think it's something that most people would like to have, and for those that say that they don't care, they don't have to use it. So lets go back to doing it they way we did it for all of those years prior to 2004. I know that there are some people that think that maybe that their parties candidates do better if we give voters less information I don't accept that argument. I think we ought to put it out there, we ought to trust the voters, we ought to let them know as much as we can about the candidates, just like they do the candidates that run for this state house. Let's give the judges the same opportunity to do that I hope you've green on house bill 8. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Mitchell rise. To speak on the bill. Gentleman has to forward to debate the bill. Mr Speaker ladies and gentleman this is a bad bill it's setting what we track, what many folks try to write as a bad presidency, by making judge, a pile of judges in particular, apartism, let me tell you, there are many pitfalls in doing this, the bill was passed initially trying to go to non partisan was in order to get used to it, you can't start from 2004, and ingrain into folks something over short period of time, let me tell you what situations come about as a result of this. We now have a super majority of Republicans in the House, well if you start electing your judiciary by parties and you have a majority republicans on court of appeal or in the supreme court how do you think they're going to rule on interpreting on the laws that you passed? Or by the same token if you have a super majority and you've got a democratic judiciary. How do you think that democratic judiciary is going to rule or interpret the laws that you pass? Then the other bad portion of this bill is what your going to do about the people who are registered as independent or on a affiliated? By the way which they seemed to be more on affiliated register than republic in the state right now. So you've got the non affiliated who can't run for anything here because, there're only three parties recognized to go on a ballot, Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians, so that person who runs as an independent is going to have to join one of those parties in order to try to become apart of the judiciary, the appellate judiciary. So these are the problems that you're going to run into to, and I think we were right dead on track trying to get part of this year out of judges races. You want to talk about, if you look at the last, supreme court not the last one but the one before supreme court justice raised you look at the money that's being put into those races. So I say to you that the bill is bad, that we all to steer try to maintain and get to a position where these judges are voted on on a nonpartisan basis, I ask you to defeat the bill. For what reason does Representative Martin wish to be recognized? To debate the bill. The gentleman is recognized. Thank you Speaker Tim. Members I'd like to address some of the problems that the bill sponsor has identified that it says give rise to the need for this bill. One it talks about the great number of candidate that we had in our recent court of appeals race so I would share his concern about this, and my hope that we not have such a situation again. However doesn't take going to pass an election to solve that problem. There is no shortage of bodies throughout the state throughout the country that elect their members in non-personal ways that have found the ways around this, and if we're interested to finding the solution to that problem we can implement that here in North Carolina too without going to personal him also talked about transparency, about providing greater information to the public, right now any member of
the public who is concerned and who wants to know but the partisan affiliation of any judicial candidate or in fact any other registered voter int he State can go on land at the State where the elections is a website and do a search and find out how anyone is registered it's already a transparent process training anyone who cares to find out that information if they deem it relevant to them the bill sponsor also talked about the public always wanting more information on judicial candidates and I'd also share his concerns about this issue also. It stopped to find out information about judges, I'm a lawyer and I'm a politician and I often don't know what judge I'm going to vote for when I go in the voting booth. So I need more information also but again going to Partisan elections is not the solution to that problem, we can look at ways about getting more information about judges on the internet about their educational experience. Where do they go to law school? What sort of areas do they have experience to practising in the law? Have they been a judge before all things that are very, very relevant to their qualification as a judge. These are the things that my constituency, that the members of the public are asking me to help them get information about and judges. I have never however had a single constituent come to me and say, "What I what I want to see is more partisanship in judicial races. What they do come to me and tell me though is that they're tired, and this is what I hear from my conservative and my liberal constituents, they're tired of judicial activism, and I'm very concerned that if we go back to partisan judicial elections we're going to elect more judicial activists both from the left and the right. I'd urge you to oppose this bill. Further discussion, further debate. Seeing none, the question before the House is House Bill 8. All those in favor will vote Aye, all those opposed will vote No, the Clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote 65 having voted in the affirmative and 48 in the negative, the bill passes the second reading and without objection will be read, Objection, Objection being noted, remains on the counter House bill 241 the clerk will read. Representative Davis Daughtry, House Bill 241. A bill to be entitled An Act to Provide that the Firearm Used to Assault A Law Enforcement Officer is to be Caused by Serious Bodily Injury or Death that this as evidenced shall be disposed off by ordering the destruction of the firearm unless the court determines that it is appropriate to return the firearm to its rightful owners. General Assembly of North Carolina enact. For what reason does representative Davis wish to be recognized. To speak on the bill. Gentleman is recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker. This bill was brought at the request of Rockville, who is the District Attorney for Judicial District 27A which consist of Gaston County. What this bill would do it would provide that affim that's ceased as evidence and used to either assault a law enforcement officer or call as injury or death to any person be destroyed unless the judge after a hearing finds it appropriate to return the firearm to its rightful entitled owner. The following will only be returned to the rightful owner number one, if the owner is not the defendant, number two he is to possess another firearm, and was either unlawfully deprived with the firearm or had no knowledge or reasonable believe that the defence has intention to use the firearm unlawfully, the bill does not require any cancellation note nor does it appear that they would be an additional cost to the bill because you already have to have a hearing under existing laws this was thoroughly vetted we're good discussion and Judiciary too where we received the final report, I would ask for your support Mr speaker I'll stand and answer any question that anybody may have. For what does representative Jackson wish to be recognized? Speak on the bill. Gentleman is recognized. Thank you Mr speaker ladies and gentlemen I'd also ask that you support this bill I felt that district from Gaston who came and spoke to committee did a very good job am explaining the bill on why people, they hate work within the court system everyday and law
enforcement officers down the streets where they didn't want this particular done back on the streets. You know as we sit up here, this term here we got a lot of emails, a lot of requests from people it seem to me this is a very small request, they are made to us by people who could put their lives on the run every day, who else, is something that we can do to make them feel better about their job then [xx] not asking for your support. For what reason does representative Adams wish to be recognized? Speak on the bill. The gentleman is recognized. You're going to hear one of my stories. When I was a kid growing up in Concord, downtown Concord was interesting in that it had about a 58 acre piece of property that lake Fallas[sp?] since the beginning of the 20th century. It's on my cellphone, some of our buddies grew up in those woods one of our best friends built tarry and Bill dams built in the cricks and climb trees and just had a ball. The only problem with the woods was we occasionally run across the snake, when we were little kid's we were terrified of the snakes and we'd run away from, we'd stay away from the spot we saw the snakes several days. As we got older we got bolder and we would again to carry a machete was not unusual for 10 year old, we walk around with a two foot long bladed machete on Concord back in those days. So we killed the snakes, we killed every snake we saw but now really the gentleman in the neighborhood told us we shouldn't be doing that, he said snakes are not bad snakes are good they're part of our ecosystem. So we began to understand that snakes were good. The bad snakes, the copperheads, we should watch out for and we chose to kill one we should be careful about doing it. So as I got older, as we both got older, we left the snakes alone because we were no longer fearful of them, we were no longer angry that they existed. We treated snakes as what they are. It's not end of the story. Bill Towery was one of my best buddies. He grew up to have a wonderful career in radio, but in 1997, June 1997, Bill bought a Smith & Wesson model 60 stainless steel, snipers revolver. Learned how to shoot it and use it to take his own life and it broke my heart. But I never got angry at the gun. I never felt like I needed to retaliate against the gun. I know what killed Bill Towery. It was taking antidepressants and mixing that with alcohols. I think that what this represents is misdirecting our anger and our fear of an action towards the wrong location. The gun is not an evil thing. I've been a shooter for over 50 years and I find this to be in a personal front something I enjoy and have enjoyed all of my life and I urge you to vote against this bill. Let's focus our attention on the real cause of the problem. Thank you. For what reason does Representative McGrady wish to be recognized? To speak on the bill. The gentleman is recognized. I rise to also oppose the bill. I am member of the judiciary two subcommittee that heard the bill and did not come out of there unanimously. But I actually listened to the debate and wasn't sure exactly where I was I did what many of us did, would do, call home to my Sheriff and call home to my DA, and actually they told me just the opposite. They told me that they saw absolutely no reason to destroy a firearm just because of the way it was used by someone else. We're not talking of alot of money here, it's relatively a small amount of money mistake wide but where does that money go if the firearm is sold? It go education. And so I agree with the speaker just immediately before. I understand the feelings here, but in this case, I don't see the need to destroy the firearm because of how it was used, and moreover I prefer to use firearm to be sold, in which case these monies are going to education. I urge you to vote against the bill. For what reason does Representative Davis wish to be recognized. Speaker Gayle on the bill. The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill a second time. Thank you Mr. Speaker.
I respect both of my colleagues and the comments that they have said, and I'll leave you with a cup of thoughts and these are thoughts that just trying to lock bill just the judiciary committee when this was heard. If your spouse was killed by someone, would you want that gun that was used to kill your spouse, to still be on the streets if your spouse was killed, would you like to look on eBay and see the gun that was used to kill you spouse for sale? This is a lot of physiological and emotion background for this bill, but I ask you just to think about the two things that I just vote to you because to the law enforcement answers I could think of nothing worse to either see a gun that was used to kill a law enforcement officer be sold and back on streets, or anything of that type nature so I had respect for an law enforcement officer a respect of those who have loss loved ones to a gun I would ask you to please support this bill so those gun would be destroyed and they will have to have that reminder that terrible tragedy their lives as a rest of their life thank you. For what reason does Representative Dobson wish to be recognized? Ask the bill sponsor a question. Does gentleman yield? Certainly gentleman yields. Thank you in this, just a quick question and you have to indulge me because I would say I'm not as educated or learned as I should be on this may be you can help me. What about for instance if someone 10 years later we find evidence that there only convicted of a potential crime and we destroy the firearms and can't use that for potential forensics later on down the road? Now again may be a simple answer but it's something that as I was reading the bill that was a little bit concerned about. That's actually the question and I appreciate the question, practically speaking because you've to have a hearing, in other words if this bill passes, a motion will still need to be made and the court will still conducting hearing and the safety veil there, which actually I was the one that asked for that to be put in, the District Attorney didn't have the reason to have that because I raised the question of war. What if I had a gun and get stolen, and somebody uses it to kill somebody, why should I be punished for my property being destroying, when I didn't have anything to do with it, and that was one of the reason why we set the hearing up, for the judge to be able to hear the circumstance to determine or either there are some safety vault be destroyed or there some unique circumstances that were just found, and need to be returned to the ainex[sp?] that doesn't answer your question but am just say there is a safety vault and that not everything is going to automatically destroy their symbolic, or as the proposed bill say. To ask the good question specifically is if someone one would be convicted, and if it was no longer to be used as evidence by the District Attorney, only then can they be subject to a motion to destroy but let's say that happens and the gun is destroyed and then later for some reason there is a motion for appropriately for some other appropriate procedure go in whereby that conviction was overturned. Well, quite frankly the weapon would have been destroyed. So I don't know how that person would be able to get it back unless there is some sort of compensation that they can pursue for the weapon that was destroyed. Thank you. Yes, sir. For what reason does as Representative McNeill rise? To speak on the bill. Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Ok, having worked for the sheriff 's office and if you read the bill you'll notice that most arms that are ordered to be destroyed are sent to the sheriff to be be destroyed. So I've been familiar with the process of destroying firearms in the sheriff's office for many many years and I rise to speak against the bill till no difference to my former seat mate. if you look at the bill it's not going to be returned to the defended. And I understand you may you may sit here and think that if a man uses his gun to shoot himself that his widow might not want the gun, well she might not, but she might. you know we don't all know what every person might think or how they would react in that situation. They'll share different things can be done with the firearm if it has illegible serial number, it's going to be destroyed anyway no matter what purpose it's used for. other firearms if there is no owner that is no the defendant that can take the gun, the gun is going to be turned up over for the most part to the Sheriff's as and I can use that for threatening or
in any other purposes or they can resell it to a licence fetal armed data, so it could wide up back on the streets but there are again to I would not have to agree with Mr. Harnoms, it is not the gun the committed the crime it was the person. So, I just respect the feeds against the bill. Further discussion, further debate, seeing non question before the house, is House Bill 241 all those in favor will vote I, all those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the votes. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 63 in the negative and 50 in the affirmative the bill fail. House Bill 264 the clerk will read. Representative Mccnail House Bill 264 bill to be entitled an Act to Allow Community Colleges to Participate in the 403(b) Supplemental Retirement Plan. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts for what reason does representative [xx]. Speak on the bill. Chairman recognize it, debate the bill. Thank you, in [xx] of house bill 64 basically what it does is allows the communities colleges to participate in the 403 bill retirement plan. Section 1 of the bill continues, allows the local board of trustees to continue to purchase interest in custodial account for the benefits of the employees, pursuant to section of the internal revenue services code used in finance derived from the employees salary reductions. Section 12 on the bill adds a new section to the laws authorizing local boards of trustees to offer participation in an North Carolina public school teachers and professional educators investment plan, which is the 4B plan, it has no physical impact to the state those who are allowed to participate in or using a salary reduction to participate I stand ready for any question I appreciate you support the bill Further discussion further debate, seeing non, the question before the house is House Bill 264, all those in favor will vote I, all those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote [xx] Representative Sherpard would you like to record on this vote sir? The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote 110 in the affirmative and two in the negative the bill passes the second reading and without objection we be heard the third time General Assembly of North Caroline enact Further discussion further debate Yes. Representative Collins. For what perspective do you wish to be recognized? To debate the motion. The gentleman is recognized. I've tried to get a second reading but thanks for recognizing this time. I want to explain why I voted against this there're at least two other members that know why I think its against me to call this taking advantage to thank all the state employees do that oppose the establishment of this forth will be plan to start with. I really don't think that the State needs to be doing every thing does the public sector can do well and the private sector can do well and squeeze them out and that's what we've done with internal planning now for state employees, we've had the state following [xx] plan and place for a number of years then we added the state 457 for a cop plant and about the only place that the product sector could continue to try to offer plants was through the four or three [xx] need of the tax [xx] and a couple of years ago. We created the state version of that to compete the promised sector as well and now we're expanding that so that's why I'm against it. We've we've pretty much made a statement openly at the time we're trying to plan for our state employees I'm just against that. For what purpose does the gentleman from randoff representative McNeill rise? And I understand. The gentlemen recognized to debate the bill. I apologize I understand the objections from the private industry, but we did this for the teacher and I've seen the reason we can do it for the community college of Cowis. Further discussion further debate. If not the question before house is the passage of house bill 264 on it's third ring so many favoring passage of the bill will say I those oppose No independent of the chair the I's have it the I's do have it and house bill 264 passes it's third reading and it will be sent to the senate.
House bill 327 the clerk will read. Representative Dolpson house bill 327 a bill to be entitled on ex till I emergency medical service personnel to cure and use papers rafe for self defence purposes general assembly North Carolina enact. for what purpose does the gentleman from Mcdowell, Representative Dobson rise? Send forth an amendment. The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment the clerk will read. Representative Dobson moves to amend the bill on page 1 lines 2 through 18 by rewriting those line to read. Gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker, I had some EMS personnel come to me in my district and say Josh we've got some serious issues with safety, we've been hit, we've been slapped, we've been kicked, we've been assaulted, so we're looking for some level of protection in these volatile situations particularly in domestic violence cases, or alcohol cases whatever the case may be. So they were looking for some level of protection, so I initially, and it passed out the committee, recommended pepper spray as a means of protection. and a couple of concerns arose it did pass unanimously but I want to make sure that we get this right. There were some concern Representative Glazier had, not a concern but an issue on the training, Representative Faircloth had an issue on maybe there was something better than pepper spray. So I think to get this right I'd like to turn this into a study bill and let's study what the best options are with regard to training, and equipment that our EMS need to protect themselves as they do their jobs. So that's what this amendment does, it turns this into a study bill to see what best mechanisms we have for our EMS personnel to protect themselves. Further discussion further debate on the amendment, if not the question before the House is a passage of amendment one offered by Representative Dobson, those in favor will vote aye, those who oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative and one on the negative, the amendment is adopted. We are now back on the bill as amendment, the gentleman from Magdal has the floor to debate the bill. Again, thank you Mr. Speaker the study bill see what best mechanism the EMS personnel can have to protect themselves, and I appreciate your support. Further discussion, further debate if not the question before the house the passage of House Bill 327 on it's second reading, those in favor will vote I those opposed will vote no, the court will open the vote court working shield will record the vote, 114 having voted in the positive and none in the affirmative, House Bill 327 passes the second reading and we remain on the calender members look at your calendar please house bill 401 had a request that bill be removed this is from the bill sponsor removed from the days calendar and be referred to the committee on rules count on operations of the house. Bill will be so referred. House bill 529 the clerk will read. Representative Bsakerville and Brian the house bill 529 a bill to be [xx] to repeal punishment of revoking a persons drivers licence for committing certain driving while licence revoke offenses. And make driving while license is revoked non moving violations certain purposes and to make order other non conforming changes. General Assembly North Carolina [xx] For what purpose does the gentleman from Vince[sp?] Representative Baskerville rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has authority to debate the bill. Thank you Mr Speaker this bill ladies and gentlemen is a bill that Representative Brian that last session Representative Brian, Representative Ramsey, Representative [xx] and I worked on it passed this body a 112 to 4 received a favorable report in senate judiciary two, but never made it's way to the senate floor. So we find it again this session. This bill does not have any opposition from the compass[sp?] of district attorneys this is a bill that is particularly important in rural areas where there is no public transportation to help folks who that are in the right track to be able to get their license restored, right now if you get a ticket, you don't take care of it, your license get suspended. If you get another speeding ticket, you get that speeding ticket for
driving license is revoked, if you want plead guilty and take care of those tickets that are originally suspended you you are pleading guilty and pleading will result, in your revocation of your license for an addition year, so folks are trying to take care of these old tickets and they are doing is paying to revoke that license for another year, now in my area where folks got a driver to go to work, got a driver to go to school, got a drug to take of the family, there are no taxis there is no public transportation, folks need driver license and this is the bill that addresses that, I will be glad to answer any questions, anyone has. For what purpose does the gentleman from Pender Representative Millis rise? To ask a question of Representative Baskerville. Does the gentleman from Vance yield to the gentleman from Denver? Yes. He yells. Representative Baskerville I'm not opposed to this Bill, I've read numerous times backwards and forwards and I'm just a little confuse about what the entiners here, now I understand who is the supportive of the bill and I understand what goes on our court room as well in the backlog of things of that nature, but we also have a responsibility for public safety, a responsibility when it comes to our roads and the safety is my understanding and my question could you please inform me, in regard to this very difficult, get to getting your license revoked, why are we actually trying to make it easier for restoring a citizen who will actually get to that point of actually that gets that license revoked, I decided I have some further explanation because I'm a little nervous about us continuing to water down something that is already what I believe is tremendous Swiss chess when it comes to our laws as it is. Thank you for that you can get your license suspended basically three ways. You can commit a revocable offence, impaired driving. You can accumulate a certain number of points within a certain period of time. Getting too many speeding tickets or you can get your license suspended for not going to court, not taking care of tickets. There are basically three ways those are three ways you can get your license suspended. Now in response to the public safety issues and concerns, we have exempted certain which will revoke your license from being subject to this bill. If you're license was suspended for driving while impaired conviction this is not going to help you. Actually the exemptions, Representative Millis, are listed in subsection A1 and so if you have an impaired driving conviction, this bill will not help you. You've got to wait that time to get your license burn if your license is suspended because you were driving in violation of your limit driving privilege this bill will not help you If your license is suspended because you committed a hit and run and hurt somebody, caused bodily injury this bill will not help you, because we certainly recognized that there are certain public safety concerns. So the point behind this bill is really you have folks that license is suspended for getting to go to court and taking care of speeding tickets for getting to court and take care expired registration tags inspection certificates, if they get another ticket for speeding and try to pay that off their license is going to be suspended for an additional year, and I think we need to try to help those folks restore their licenses and so they can drive to work so that they can they be an active participant in this economy. If you don't have a driver's license, you are guaranteed to rely on the state for everything. You're going to be rely and on the state to pay for everything for you if you can't drive to go to school or drive to go to work. Follow up, Mr. Speaker. Does the gentleman from Vance yield to an additional question from the gentleman from Pender? Sure. He yields. Rep. Baskerville, thank you for that response. Again I am aware of the exemptions. What I wanted to ask is that I understand all of these aspects that we're looking at protecting. The actual drunk driving aspects is exempted. I also understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, in your response is that if you accumulate a points upon your driving license to the point where you get it revoked, that is also exempted from this bill. If you could clarify that. That is not. Follow up, Mr. Speaker.
Does the gentleman from Vance yield to an additional question from the gentleman from Pender? I do. He yields. Rep. Baskerville, I'm just a little confused here is that if we have individuals that aren't actually paying the fines of the laws that we are passing here and that we actually are trying to enforce and if we have individuals that accumulate a massive amount of points on their driver's license to the point they actually get it revoked I'm just confused why in the world are we actually passing this bill to make it, again I'm just a little bit perplexed. I can understand that Representative Mills, so this bill is triggered when folks come and say Mr District Attorney, Your Honor Mr. Judge, I want to plead guilty and pay my fines for all these old tickets. For them to even get the benefit of this bill they have got to come in and take care of those old tickets, they've got to come and pay off the old funds this is a revenue raiser for the State. You can talk to any clerk's office you can talk to any district attorneys office and they'll tell you that this is going to generate funds. This is an incentive, Representative Millis, for folks whose license has been suspended to get that money up, to come to court, to plead guilty, and to pay that fine. This does not impact the punishment it's still a crime, you can still go to jail behind it, all this does is deal with that civil revocation with the DMV. So they say, OK you can come in and pay off that old fine you can come in and plead guilty, and there will not be a further suspension of your license. It's still a crime, you still got to pay that fine, you still got a guilty plea on your record. Otherwise Representative Millis, we just going to say if your license is ever suspended you will never get a drivers license ever again in North Carolina, and I don't think that is the purpose of the DMV, I don't think that's the purpose of chapter 20 statues if you make a mistake when you're 18 years get three speeding[sp?], you know how you get to how many points it takes 12 points, Rep. Millis, in a three year period to get your licence suspended. You know how many points you get for going 15 mile per hour over the speed limit? You get three points. So if you get four tickets in three years, it's not like you are drive like Dale Earnhardt out here. That could happen to people that are on a rush to get to the General Assembly sometimes. I'm going to sit down now because I feel I have been talking too much. For what purpose does the gentleman from Randolph, Rep. McNeil, rise? Just ask the bill sponsor a question. Does the gentleman from Vance yield to the gentleman from Randolph? I see the way, but hopefully it will be a quick one. Yes sir. Under your bill, could a person, they're driving while license is revoked, okay their license is and they drive anyway. So they get caught for driving while license revoked again. How does this bill deal with that? It looks to me like that is still a misdemeanor crime. Where you're still subject to going to jail, this bill says you can come to court, you can plead guilty to that driving while license revoked, and that will not result in additional one year suspension of your driving license. Now, if you plead guilty to that speeding ticket that they pulled you over for subsequently and pay that off, you will have to suffer a revocation for that, but that will not be the year suspension. That's going to be the 30 day revocation, the 15 day revocation. So it's still punishment in there. It's still punishment there representative. Follow up. Does the gentleman from Vance shield to an additional question from the gentleman from Randolph? Yes. He yields. I understand what you're saying punishment is coming in pleading guilty and having to pay the fine and everything like that. But under this bill, the additional drive while license is revoked that they committed, would not as under current law would not add to their civil revocation? Tha is correct. That is correct. Thank you. Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from Camble[sp?] Representative Glasier arise? See if Representative Baskerville would yield for three questions. Does the well before he does it, I think the speaker [xx] to make make a motion pertaining to the calendar on this bill if. I'll defer. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake Representative Sam rise. Make a motion pertaining to the gallop[sp?].
The gentleman's recognized to make a motion. Mr Speaker I move that this be moved over till Monday, April 20th. Any objection to that motion? Hearing none so order. House bill 540 the clerk will read. Representatives Chitter, Hager, Shaffer and Jones, house bill 540 a bill top be entitled have request job committee on the Library of Congress to approve the replacement of stature of Charles [xx] National Satural Hall, the stature of whoever Will Franklin Bill Graham junior. General Assembly North Carolina Enex. Actually Chair is aware of amendment made being prepared, by members of objection to this bill will temporarily dispise, Representative Michael if you'd advise the chair once about your ammendment ready, house bill 340 prepare for read Representative Shepherd, Cleveland, Boles and Wodmore, House Bill 340, a bill to be entitled and provided weekend burials of all the states veterans cemetaries for what purpose does the gentleman from Oslo[sp?], Representative Shepard asked? Mr Speaker to debt the bill. The gentleman hasn't forwarded the debt for bill members of the house basically this bill came to bail, because I wasn't aware that architecture cemetery didn't perform burial on Saturdays and Sundays, and recently I had to do service for a family that lost their service member, and the funeral was on Saturday, and they had to wait over until on Monday to do the burial. And they had family that was in town or from out of state, so on and so forth and in order for them to get a conclusion on this, they had to wait until Monday to do it. So I thought that time that the state veterans cemeteries did perform funerals and burials on Saturdays and Sundays they do not. So after doing some research, I found the Representative of Cleveland in 2004, had had a bill pass that basically said to the cemeteries would do that, but then we find out that they are not following those instructions and having been since 2004, so basically this bill will pass all the state veteran cemeteries in the state and that's as simple as it is I think it is a shame that when we have veterans and their families and when they pass a way that the funerals on a Friday or Saturday they have to wait throughout the whole week and before they can be berried, so I ask for your support and I yield representative Clivelen if you would like to explain about the 2004 bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cameran representative Lukas rise? To speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to commend Representative Shepard for bringing this bill forward. Quite often it's kind of somewhat routine that when veterans help families have funerals for veterans on weekends that they do have to wait till Monday to be honorably buried. So I think this is a good bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Pendleton, rise? To speak on this bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. I had a couple of people talk to me about this and on the surface sounds good and I agree with it on Saturdays but on Sundays when a lot of people want to go visit their loved ones graves they don't really want back hoes and people out there with shovels and a lot of noise going on. So, I'm not really making a motion to amend it, but I think we ought to think about it and just do it on Monday through Saturday. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd, rise? to see if Representative Boles would yield for a question. I'm sorry, which member? Representative Boles. Rep. Boles? Does the gentleman from Moore yield to the gentleman from Cumberland he yields. Representative Boles, if you get to Sun hill on Friday afternoon or you miss your appointment by let's say five minutes what would occur sir? What would occur you'd have to reschedule. And follow the strict does the gentleman from mohel to an additional question from the gentleman from cable. So that mean that you will have to get another window and if you missed that one what will happen sir? There're only three windows in the day tin 12 and two and as far as they know this in the cemetery the family are not allowed in the cemeteries families are only allowed under the shelter and then after the limited time that the families are there and there will be asked to make room for the next family and the remains will be taken out by themselves to the cemetery. Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker.
For what purpose does the gentleman from Gabbro gentleman Ford rise, Speak on appeal, The gentleman has the floor to to debate the bill. Mr. Speaker as you just heard representative Bonnet is that the family the only thing that occur at the commidal sound is where the body is laid to. at that particular point in time there's a service which exit a brief window there are no sign about it, a funeral home directed, and know about the wind, and know about the time table so therefore once the body is laid to rest there it's the caretakers being carrying the body, and then burry the bodies so is the end of it is that, there for the homegoing service won't see or experience any other activity that take placed on the burial side so I think there's a good bill, and I support that. For what purpose does the gentleman from Oslo representative cleveland rise. Speaker and the bill the gentleman has the floor to debate the bill ladies and gentlemen the state veteran cemetaries haven't designed for the comfort of the Employees of the state veteran cemetaries this is got to change and the different life I used to plan people myself and one of the gentleman we could do up to four day without any great strength the two of us it's all I've done in planning. Sunday burials there's no problem with Sunday burials if you use your head make sure you don't disturb the folks who are visiting the grave sides and the folks that are coming in to visit the grave sites they are more conscious of the person whose being planted then they are at visitation of the third doing there's nothing wrong with this bill if I had realized that they were not doing this and if the stay if I had been notified of a problem I would rise on top for a long time ago there's been two times since I've been here where I had to go to that entrance department and encourage them to do this type of burials on weekends and I thought it was being done until Representative Shepherd come up with the problem and that's why we files this bill. They've come and made excuses, excuses are not needed they should do their job, and do it to the convenience of the families that are mourning, not for their personal satisfaction. For what purpose does the gentleman from Catawba, Representative Setzer rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. January 28th 2011, my father passed away and he was a veteran. Now, daddy was not buried in the Veteran Cemetery, he was buried in the cemetery of a small methodist church in rural Catawba County. I had no idea there were such restrictions on the state cemeteries, and like Representative Cleveland said, we should have corrected this along time ago. We to do what we can, to help the help the families, not put a stabling block in their way, I urge you to support the bill. For what purpose does the general from Wake, Representative Pendleton rise? I'm sorry Mr. Speaker, my light was left on. For what purpose does the gentleman from Shepard Ross. Mr. Speaker, let's debate the bill again. In regards to Sunday burials, after I did some investigations and so forth, [xx] had gates that were placed there. And along with the vetran centre, the vetran the say also the cemetery that is supposed to be open to the public, for the people that were displaced from the camp azure[sp?] in 1939 - 1940. They moved many of the people that were buried in camp azure[sp?] over to that check the area, so they are also inside those gate, and I have received many complains from some of those people that come from out the town, we can't get this, we can't inside the gates so they have agreed to leave the gates open 24 hours a day and throughout the week and weekends, so people can come there and visit in any time they like to and is representative allude to you have 30 minutes for burial services the timeline that they gave you, and usually those graves are dug before people come there. So, I don't think it is inconvenient and is also the way they do it in commercial cemetery in town and it seems to work fine with them, and they are embarked for every veteran that's buried there by the federal government and by their dependents. So I ask you support for the bill. For what for what purpose does the gentleman Cambaland representative rise? This is a very deserting Mr.
Speaker, I would even represensttive [xx] we yell for question. Does the gentleman from [xx] yell to the the gentleman from Campler? Yes, sir. He yells. Representative, you mentioned in part that the burial is paid by the government. Does it stop of Friday. No sir, that I'm aware. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Further discussion further to be made on the bill, if no the question before the house is the passage of house bill 340 on it second reading, those in favor will say yes, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. Clerk will clock the machine record the votes 114 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative. House Bill 340 passes second reading and will without objection be read a third time. [xx] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is to pass House Bill 340 on it's third reading. Those in favor will say I, those opposed will say no the aye's have it. The house bill 340 passes its third reading will be sent to the senate. Members we have another school group with us. Actually I think we have two different ones. The first is from Covenant Classical School in Concord from Cabarrus County, would you all please stand so that we can welcome you? Thanks for being with us today. And we have a second group HTL from HTL elementary from Thomasville and Davidson county would you all please stand? Glad to have you with us today. House bill 595, the clerk will read. Representative Vickmile[sp?] McNeil. Cleveland and G Martin. House bill 595 the bill to be entitled enact when I was experience military police officer for purposes of law enforcement certification, and to increase the size of North Carolina criminal justice education and training standards commission. General assembly of North Carolina. In us for what purpose does the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Representative [xx] To debate the bill and offer a perfected amendment. Does the gentleman wish to move the amendment amendment first. Mr. Speaker if it's Okay with you I'd like to give a brief intro and then offer the amendment. The Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. Members of the House in a very strong ongoing by policy effort to grand for [xx] credit for military experience. House bill 595 does just that in the area of law enforcement and it's a win, win, win in several different ways. One it enables our sherrifs, our chief of police, our commander of the highway patrol and all the essential law enforcement agencies in the state that are experiencing less and less qualified applicants when they go to have folks to be able to leverage one of the other wins is what when have the military members, active guarding reserves as we've had reduction in forces to be able to leverage the not only the vigorous and very well established training and experience that the military members have, and it may not be a perfect fit and and this accounts for that, but it also gives our military members so they don't have to start at square one and do an entire course when in reality as we have seen they may have done all or almost all of what's required to get their certification. So this helps our law enforcement community, it certainly facilitates our military as we continue to be the most military-friendly state in the nation. And the other piece here, I want you keep in mind, when you have individuals who are certainly proven with their followership and leadership skills able body, can get the job done and be productive in the process, do we want them to go the other states that readily facilitate their quick transition, into career field such as law enforcement or do we want to keep those people here? Because we have the fourth most actively de-millitary members of any state in the nation and I think the answer is obvious. Mr Speaker, the amendment I would like to offer that at this time. The gentleman's is recognized to send forth an amendment, the clerk will read. Representative Whitmeyer[sp?] moves to amend the bill on page line 113 by rewriting the line to read. The gentleman from Transylvania has the floor to debate the amendment.
Members of the house, we had a very positive discussion in the committee process, unanimous vote, and part of the purpose of committee is to perfect bills, find things that can be made better and in this case strengthen the bill, I'll give credit to Representative Floyd and Representative Harp[sp?] for pointing this out. Well it maybe implied what's involved in this amendment. I want to explicitly state that, and I'll explain where this comes in shortly, is it's implied but it's not stated that, the individuals that would qualify under this bill perceiving credit for their military experience in training, we want to make sure they have an honorable discharge. The second part which is line eight and nine on the amendment is basically another item that's implied but to explicitly stated the lines on the amendment eight and nine are being inserted so that there are point blank in there. So I ask that you support the amendment it's certainty a friendly amendment it makes the bill stronger. Further discussion further debate on the amendment if not the question before the house is the passage of amendment one offered by representative Whitemire those in favor will vote yes those opposed will vote no the clerk will open the vote. Clerk rock machine record 113 having voted in the affirmative and none on the negative, the amendment is adopted. We're now back on the bill as amended, does the gentleman desire further debate? Mr. Speaker just for fairness to make sure people have a floor understand I'd be very brave, I do have a few more words, please. Okay, what we have here and I got it, with a concept like this. Further discussion, further debate. If not the question for House the passage of house bill 595 on a second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those who oppose will vote No the clerk will open the vote The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. House Bill 595 has received 114 votes in the affirmative and none in the negative. House bill 595 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. [xx] Question for the house is the passage of house bill 595 on it's third reading those in favor will say I, those oppose will say no, the I's have it house bill 595 passes its third reading, the amendment ordered in gross they will be to the senate. We were now ready to get back up to house bill 390. Has this been read already? Cooper-read Representative Hilton House Bill 390 a bill to be entitled make travel license expression to board of trustees, a vote for county community college and to provide the Beaufort County Community College shall serve all of Washington County. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose does the gentleman from Dare, Rep. Tine, rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the bill we debated yesterday and we passed on second reading and has to do with Washington County being serviced by Community College I appreciate your support and I believe that Representative Willingham has an amendment. For what purpose does the gentleman from Egdecombe, Representative Willingham rise? Send forth an amendment. The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment, the clerk will read. Representative Willingham moves to amend the bill on page 1 lines 3-5 by rewriting those last three. The gentleman from Edgecombe, has the floor to debate the amendment. I'll be very brief. This amendment all it does is, but let me say this the college system the community college system has not had a review of colleges those are the ones who are serving more than one county since this was incorporated which was over 50 years ago or more. So what this amendment does is direct the state board of the community colleges to review those colleges that are serving have more than one service or serving more than one service area, and this is they are directed to do this every five years. And once they redo it then they will be one to decide whether there should be some alignment or something change, and so I think this is the way to go and I think this is probably who should be making that decision. So I ask you to support it and that's it. For what purpose does the gentleman from Dare Representative Tine rise? To debate the amendment.
The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank Representative Willingham for bringing this forward we continue to be in a difficult situation as we address this issue, it's an important issue. But as we move forward really the community colleges need to be taking a close look at this to make sure that we're doing it in a proper way as we move forward so I ask you to support the amendment. Also I have checked will the county representatives that would be affected by this study and and to make sure that they knew and were okay with it. Further discussion or further debate? If not, the question before the House is the adoption of amendment one set forth by Representative Willingham. Those in favor will vote aye those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote [xx] clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 111 having voted in the affirmative and two in the negative the amendment is adopted. We're now back on the bill. Further discussion the clerk has pointed out this bill is on for third reading. However the amendment changed the title therefore the bill will proceed to Monday night county for third reading. Ratification of bills and resolutions. The clerk will read. The enrolling clerk reports the following bills duly ratified for presentation to the governor house bill 364 an act to clarify conflict of interest position for certain commissions as a matter of fact appointment for the voice of commission. Chapter bill will be noted, for what purpose does the gentleman from Dare representative Tom rise? To ask that my vote on house bill eight be corrected from a night to a noon sir. The gentleman on the bill said to have voted no on house bill eight, house bill 558 the court call for read. Pittman house bill 558 appears to be entitled in act to ensure representation on North Carolina I'm going tell first commission of the North Carolina mesh regard, and to reserve components to the United State on forces general assembly North Carolina enact. The gentleman from Transylvania representative Whitemire is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker folks this one's a little shorter and I'm going to be concertized and if there's something I missed I'll be glad to take questions. The military affair commission does great work however the guard in reserve components of a military or the guard doesn't have a vote that's what this does I know of no known opposition and with it keep in mind that between nearly 12, 000 guard member's an additional almost 12, 000 reservoirs in our state that live in all corners of our state we need to make sure that our resident North Carolinian's have a vote on the commission and I ask for your support thank you. Further further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 558 on the second reading those in favor will vote I those oppose will vote no the court will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine record the vote 114 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative. House bill 558 passes its second reading and will without objection be read the third time. [xx]. Further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 558 on it's third reading. Those in favor will say aye, aye, those opposed will say no. The aye's have it the house bill passes it's third reading will be sent to the senate. House bill 190 the clerk will read. Representative Pendleton house bill a bill to be entitled impact to make modification to the state health plan for public employees General Assembly of North Carolina enact Who is handling this bill? The gentleman from Wake Representative Pendleton is recognized to explain the bill if he desires if not we take the vote Yes sir the bill I was asked by the Saving Employee Health Plan State treasurer's office to do this bill and is the currently stand the main reason is when somebody goes to work with the state after having retired from the military they automatically go on the state in boys health plan and it costs state government the tax payers pay that premiums, so when they retire, they they no longer need the state
retirement insurance because they have trackair for life, along with their spouse. So, but they Don't have a way to get all off of it, except every January, so this is basically what this bill is about. May I ask that we correct that so they don't have to pay unnecessary premiums. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the house is passage of House Bill 190 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock machine and record the vote 113 having voted the affirmative and non of the negative house bill 190 passed its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General Assembly North Carolina enact Further discussion further debate? If not, the question for the house is the passage of House Bill 190 on its third reading, those in favor will say I, those opposed will No. Aye's have it. House bill 190 passes start rating will be sent to the senate. House bill 183 the clerk will read. Represents a Cope Brown come read numbers and work ford. House bill 183 bill to be entitled next to appeal just station card official mouth act Johnstone of North Carolina Emex. For what purpose purpose does the lady from Davidson, Representative Brown rise? Debate the bill Mr. Speaker. Lady has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you so much. The Map Act was passed allowing in 1997, and allows DOT to establish official maps of future roads corridors. Now according to a recent ruling about the North Carolina want court of appeal this is been too often a taking without just compensation. And it has had diverstating effects on how man was in property owners all across the state this bill passed by defining it in the transportation committee anonymously and the bill sponsors and I would very much appreciate your support for this bill thank you Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the lady from Forsyth Representative Conrad rise. To debate the bill. The lady has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you members of the general assembly, and I certainly thank those members of the transportation committee, and the finance committee to listen to our link bill presentation, and the bipartisan support this bill may look short but is going to have a big impact on the people of North Carolina, and respecting their property right we need to repeal the map so that we can develop over the next six months a new plan that balances our transportation needs with the private property rights of the people of North Carolina. The court decision referred to in section eight was from citizens of my county for South county travey versus department of transportation. We had a map for a Western loop of our belt way filed in 1997, and the people have been in limbo ever since. They want this court case on appeals because it's a judge ruled in favor of these citizens that yes the mud pact[sp?] was unconstitutional, and these people did have for inverse condemnation. I want to see unanimous vote on this floor today, we need to send the signal that we support the private property rights of the citizens of North Carolina and I know you do, because one of the first bills we passed this session, was to have a vote on the constitutional amendment in 2016 on eminent domain. And this judge ruled that when they filed this math, it was an act of eminent domain and that these citizens deserve just compensation for their property. I hope all of you will vote green and thank you so much. Further discussion, further debate, if not, the question before the house is the passage of house bill 183 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine to record the vote. 113 having voted the affirmative and none in the negative. House bill 183 passes it's second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General assembly of [xx] Further discussion further debate, and if not, the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 183 on it's third reading. Those in favor will say aye. Aye. Those opposed will say no. The aye's have it. The house Bill 183, passes it's third reading will be sent to the Senate.
For what purpose does the gentleman from Lenoir Representative Graham Rise? Vote yes. vote to be recorded having voted down the previous bill. General will be recorded is voting out. House Bill 332, the clerk will read. Representatives Hager, Collins, Mccainrough[sp?] and Stam. House Bill 332, a bill to be entitled and act to provide recover of capital related cost incurred by the national gas utility, and construction of national gas infrastructure for large manufacturing authority. General assembly of North Carolina enact The gentleman from Rutherford, Representative Hager is recognized to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. I think most of you folks have heard the public utilities and finances bill, it is a rather complicated bill but what it does is give the North Carolina department of commerce another tool to bring large manufacturers in North Carolina. This is bonus asset the largest and excessive $200 million investment and excessive 1500 jobs. This allows the coming guest distribution utility to run against land to these large manufacturers, here fee considered in fees where doesn't mean the business case that allows that you come utilities spend up to $25 million till to run the gas line to large manufactures, and then it allows him to expense the SPN freezable peaces on a rate case to the rate payers. In it's captive $75 million, it requires zero investment from the state and the examples that we use in you expense $25 million on this issue it is about 28 cent per month. The residential cost to the local distribution units, with them Mr. Speaker stand free for any questions, all I ask you we vote in. Further discussions, further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 332 on it's second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no. Clerk will open the vote. Clerk will now lock the machine and record the vote 107 having voted the affirmative and five in the negative, House Bill 332 passes the second reading and will without objection be read a third time. Some have not claim marks. Further discussion, further debate, if not the question for the house is the passage of House Bill 332 on it's third reading. Those in favor will say I, I those oppose will say No. The I's has have it. House Bill 332 passes its third reading will be sent to the Senate. For what purpose does the gentleman from guest and representative Tower. Take a motion Mr. Speaker. Gentlemen is recognized for a motion. Yes I know that judiciary II referral for House Bill 881 landlord/tenant areas employees summary eject be stricken and that it be referred to the committee on judiciary for word. Is there objection. So on. Mr. Speaker for an additional motion. Gentleman may stand he has mentioned by the house bill 760 short time read before the [xx] 2015. He remained from the committee on environment and referred to committee on a regulatory reform. Without objection? So order. For what purpose does the gentleman from Bakam[sp?], Representative Tony rise? Thank you Mr. Speaker to change my vote on that last bill please. I have that the gentleman would like to be recorded. As I. Gentleman will be recorded having voted I only. Previous bill. House bill 402 the clerk will read. Representative Ford house bill 402 built to the entire remark to study whether the municipal election should be held in even number years [xx] no clan emax. Further discussion, further debate, if not question before the house is the passage of house bill 402 on it's second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those who oppose will vote no, the clerk to open the vote. clerk will machine record vote, 111 having voted the affirmative and one in the negative, House Bill 402 passes its second reading and will without objection, be read a third time. General assembly of North Carolina next Further discussion, further debate if not, the question for the House is the passage of House Bill 402 on its third reading. Those in favor will say I, those opposed will say No, the I's have it, House Bill 402 passes its third reading will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 81 the clerk will read. Representatives Malone, Louis Collins, S. Martin. House bill 81 a bill to be entitled on act to explain the scope of the 1% $80 rate meal machine to include machinery and equipment used in the companies engaged in metal fabrication, general assembly North Carolina act. The gentleman from Wake Representative
Marilyn is recognised to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr Speaker Ladies and gentlemen, that's the [xx] bill. For decades, North Carolina mill manufacturers, fabricators, flourished and employed a lot of people, skilled workers under competitive tax coded [xx] them a manufacturer and cost them only a privilege tax of 1% or $80 for all materials that were bought it was used to manufacture a product for sale. Now that was re-interpreted but last decade by D. O. R. and they determine all that say you have a product worth two million dollars or you bought two million dollars worth of product, for everything that you bought you add it now pay 6.75% and then of course at the end of the day, you offer the sale, sell it and it gets 6.75% on sale as well, so you're basically double- dipping like the sky rocketing cost to give you an idea of what this had done to industry here in north Carolina and South Carolina, if you had this $2 million product they will cost you $609. In Virginia, $16, 000 but here in North Carolina, it's $149, 000. This is what the people losing their jobs, this is like the industry or companies going under, some companies work out of state. Some companies are going and opening up purchasing departments in other states in order to forego the tax. We are becoming uncompetitive. We are uncompetitive and I want to fix that, so what this bill does is very simple. There's two points. Number one, we are going to return these companies back to one to present 80 and number two because we understand that the one present 80 itself it's an old number. We are going to sent that to a study bill and we are going to look whether it should be 1%, 500 100% 1, 000 we don't know, but we are going to leave it to the study committee. Is a good bill folks it helps people out ask for your vote thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Lake representative Dora rise? Send forward an amendment. The gentleman is recognized forth amendment the clerk will read. Representative Dora moves to amend the bill on page two line 12 by deleting the phrase July 1st 2015 does is it shifts for section one of the bill the effective date from July 1 of 2015 to January 1 of 20 and the effect of that as you might imagine is a savings to the budget in terms of the initial implementation the bill and I would appreciate your support. Any discussion to make on the gentlemen's amendment. The gentlemen from [xx] representing For what purposes does the gentleman rise? To debate the amendment. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. I'm one of the primary sponsors of this bill and I happen to agree with the member of [xx]. It's a bit of name that we don't know until that study committee does their work really what effect this will have because we do not know what maximum amount we might raise that $80 to, so just give us more time to determine that, now I would encourage you to vote for the amendment. Discussion on the amendment, for what purpose does the lady from Wilson Representative Mark rise? We'll sort the amendment thank you. Please recognize the amendment ended. Further discussion, further debate on the amendment if not the question before the house is the adoption of amendment one offered by Representative Dolla. Those in favor will vote aye, those who oppose will vote no. The court will open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 100 13 voted in the affirmative and non in the negative the amendment is adopted we are now back on the bill as amended, For what purpose does the lady from Wilson representative Martin rise? T o debate the bill lady has the floor to debate the bill Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the house this is we got into looking at this current exception with the one percent $80 it get to be a little bit confusing because was for manufactures for sale, and we have companies that have evolved and now do perform its contracts and have intergration programs so it was very difficult to the department of revenue to determine if someone qualify because they would say well you're doing the work of her formier you can sale it to the next guy and he can do the work and then you qualify to this exception and then pay the reduced amount in sale tax when you bought the equipment but if you did depleted model and you did that installation for customized work then may be you didn't and we just very complicated, so we have companies
that believe they qualify and it just got to wear us touches were unclear so we are clarifying that but in so doing we recognizes it is a bigger issue where we really need to take a look and see that all of our companies are being treated fairly and and we have a very competitive tax code that promote companies investing in our state, and we want to be effective for companies to locate here and to put their capital equipment in our state and not choose to locate in a different state so that's why we really think it's very important we take another look of this going forward and we really appreciate your support, thank you For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham Representative Loki rise? To speak on the bill, The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill Thank you Mr. Speaker and first members I'm jerk the bill is coming on today because it was mine understanding that the bill was not coming on this week [xx] in term of misunderstanding, so let me go forward as a little bit of material and I going to jerk the third, may have the more to say about it on Monday evening the issue that is raised here mostly has to do with revenue in some kind of consistency in revenue, you have here a real reduction name out of tax liability both for a state general fund but also for local government, and it is based on decision to give certain companies a break so that they are not paying the the sales tax on these items, they are paying a limited amount, which is less than they would pay if they pay the sales tax. You have inconsistencies. A data center got this in 2007, but there's other companies and other kinds of economic activities that do not get the 1%, $80. Seems to me that that does need to be looked systematically and that is a good part of the bill, but I think the pther issue it raises is that we are going forward with another loss of revenue and Representative Dora's amendment cuts in half in terms of this year in terms of these impact, but we are at losses in revenue without looking at how it fits overall with our corporate tax rate, can really keep our corporate tax rate going down or staying where it is if we are going to have these kinds of exceptions. Remember that the 2013 tax bill was about evening things out, and here we are not evening thing out we are actually making exception for a certain kind of economic activity. It's in consistent with 2013, I think we need to be more consistent and particularly to link this to the question of how high or how low the corporate income tax should be. So for those reasons I'm going to oppose the bill, thank you. Further discussion or further debate?, if not the question before the House is the passage of House bill 81 on the 2nd reading, those in favour will vote 'aye', those who oppose will vote 'no', the Clerk will open the vote. clock will lock, the machine will record the vote, 98 having voted the affirmative and 15 in the negative house bill 81 passes its 2nd reading and we will without objection, objection!, having been objected to, 3rd reading will occur Monday night house bill 540, the clock will read, representatives [xx] house bill 540 appealed to the entire [xx] to request the job committee, on the library of the congress, to approve your replacement of the statue of [xx], with the statue of Rev. William Frankly Billy [xx] for what purpose does the gentleman from [xx], representative [xx] arise? To debate the bill the gentleman has the floor to debate the bill thank you Mr. Speaker every State and Union has the right and privilege to place two favored sons and daughters in National Statutory Hall. This bill replaces governor [xx] current position and replaces it with Rev. Billy Graham to give you an idea that the states have been doing this pretty recently. Alabama, Arizona, California, Iowa, Kansas and Michigan, have all updated one of their two members within the last ten years. In fact Arizona already did it this year. So when we looked around and we thought about this, Reverend Graham has 58 times as appeared on Dallas most admired men and women in America since 1955. He's counseled every single president of the United States, from President Truman to President Obama. And I just honestly believe that
he is right person for this position, an the right person to represent North Carolina, I would point out there is a statute that says there is part in the plan but there is a statute that says the person must be deceased before the statue can be placed, the stature [xx] however what we are doing is setting up a committee that will hire the sculpture get the sculpture done and raise the money so these fees will not have to come to North North Carolina, it will be privately funded to actually build the structure, and so that process, we will not go ahead and get in place then that's why we're passing this bill today, I'd ask you to support. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Mark rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, members I arise in opposition to this bill not because I don't think we should remove the statue of Governor Arcok I think that would be an appropriate move and one that I would support. Also my position to this bill does not come from any lack of respect for Reverend Graham, I think he is an outstanding candidate to be considered to have a statue in the capital, but I object because of the process we're making a decision that will last and represent North Carolina to the people of the country, permanently at a minimum for decades until we choose to make another change to give it careful, careful consideration. I think it's also troubling that we're considering putting in someone who is still living, I think the requirement that the person to be deceased is a good one because it allows us time for proper reflection after the passing of someone and make a decision that's not influenced by too much immediate sentiment over the loss of someone, so I wish we'd respect that. I think a more open process, a more engaged process and involve more folks from down state of North Carolina we bring forth other nominees who I think would contain very well with Reverend. Graham. Just a couple of thoughts might be Thomas who was a naturally prominent [xx] free African American [xx] replacement, I believe from representative John's district, you can go visit his shop it's open to the public now and if you want to see what a statute of Thomas Dayer looks like you can go in front of our Museum of History just about 50 yards from the front door of this building. Another potential nominee would be General William Lee, who lived in Dune, North Carolina. He was the father of the United States Army's Airborne. One of the things that makes North Carolina unique are our Airborne Forces that are headquartered in Fort Bragg and General Lee was instrumental in United States army adopting the Airborne method. If you want to see what a statue of General William Lee looks like, you can go to the museum in Dune and see the statue of him with his boots proudly bloused in a pair of trooper fashion. And finally a shocking idea that in a state where 51.3% of our population is women, shouldn't at least 50% of the statues representing us in the capital be women. So I urge you to oppose this bill. We can go back to the drawing board and include a process for everyone. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative. Mitchell, rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Mr Speaker, and ladies and gentlemen of the house, I'm sort of like Representative Martin but my thing right now is that they put a stash in a once individual dice, and to do this and to hold it out until this person dies. I don't know whether and I know Representative Jeter is not trying to rush anything as far as Representative Graham is concerned, but we have an opportunity now to actually sit back and reflect, and replace a statue that should be replaced and with that Mr. Speaker, I'm prepare the open the limit right now to change that designation at this juncture from Reverend Graham to Julius Chambers. And who would be more apt to be replacing Governor Aycock than Julius Chambers? And with that Mr. Speaker, I move the amendments that I have sent forward already. The chair has reviewed the gentleman's amendment, rules the amendment is not [xx] to the bill and is therefore out of order. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Rep. Hall, rise? Inquiry of the Chair. The gentleman may state his inquiry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was trying to track and follow this bill and it went to rules, and I was not aware if it had a hearing in rules before it came to the floor. Is the history known? Just a moment, and I'll be glad to answer that question. Representative Paul, the bill was withdrawn
from the committee on rules counter on operations and placed on the day's calendar for consideration. Thank you Mr. Speaker. And I guess the question then is are we now actually operating as a committee of the whole. We are not. There bills before the body on second reading. Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker and what I just went through was a question of the issue of the bill clearly we have not treated this bill as we would in the other. There's been some suggestions. That we have additional time to look at the bill and make improvements and so I'd hope that we take that time since we did use an unusual method to get this bill to the floor, I'm not sure that we've had any other bill we've brought to the floor like this session. And so I think taking a deliberate amount of time to review it and make excuse me make improvements to the bill is what we should do. So I'd ask that we either displace the bill or refer the bill to rule or to the education committee where we could have a review of the history of North Carolina/. They deserve to be placed on this bill. Is the gentleman wishing to make an actual motion? Yes. The gentleman is recognized to state his motion. Thank you Mr speaker I would move that we refer this bill to education committee. The gentleman from Durham move that the bill be referred to the committee on education for what purpose does the gentleman from Macklenburg Representative Jeter rise? To speak on the motion. The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. stand the conversations from the other side, the debate is from what I can gather, they are not happy with the choice. So going to a committee or whatever the case may be doesn't change the fact that they are not happy with Reverend Billy Graham therefore I would ask my colleagues to respectively defeat the motion. For what purpose does the gentleman form Rutherford Representative Hager rise? Debate the motion. The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. Thank you Mr Speaker this is a ploy to as Representative Jeda[sp] to debate this forever we've got everybody who sits on the education committee and every other committee here on the floor today let's just have a vote on this today guys. Representative Hall, the chair has a query for the gentleman which is, there are three education committees just for the purpose of knowing the gentleman's motion, which education committee did the gentleman wish that the bill be referred to? Education policy. Well, there's education community colleges, education of an education universities, none of which are probably relevant for this bill, but which committee did the gentleman wish that [xx].education K-12. Very well. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Mark rise? To debate the motion. Gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. I'll acknowledge yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is a ploy on our part, it's a secret attempt to actually give a bill a hearing in a House Committee. Please support the motion. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wilkes, representative Elmore rise? I plead to speak to the motion. The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. I appreciate that my colleague on the other side of the hall appreciates the knowledge of the education K-12 Committee, but I feel like that this bill will not be appropriate in our purview, of what my committee works on. What purpose does the gentleman from Durham, representative Howard[sp?] rise? To speak on the motion. 2nd time. The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion 2nd time. Thank you Mr. Speaker and I think again, the question is do we have an opportunity for this bill be heard in a normal fashion, and let everyone have an opportunity not just one person pick who should be there to represent North Carolina. We're all down here, we all have this responsibility have an input on something as important as this and this is about process. I'm sure that whoever we decide, to bring forward after legitimate deliberation would be appropriate for North Carolina. We would just ask that if it be sent back to the committee for that review. It could be refereed from that committee to another committee as the speaker's decision, and again if [xx] the rules and did not have a hearing, and we're not operating based on the speakers decision that we're not operating as a committee of the whole, therefore would not be proper for us to give it as the first time as a committee on this bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Mitchell rise?
Pass it. The other gentleman from Durham a question. Does the gentleman from Durham view the gentleman from Durham Representative Hall that is. Haggy you. Representative Hall you made the motion, wouldn't you change your motion and have that bill sent back to rule. I would. Have made the motion Mr. Speaker with the permission. The The chair works up their an amendment to the General Miss Mosh as the perfecting amendment, to make it. We refer to rules. For what purpose does the lady from Missouri representing Stephens Ross. To see if Representative Howard, your question. Does the gentleman from Durham to the lady from Missouri Are you? Thank you representative Paul. While this motion has been pending and you've been aware of it, have you made any efforts to file a separate bill to have other persons consider? I have not filed a separate bill again. What I'm concerned about and what I'm asking to do, is to give this bill the regular treatment we have and just send this bill. We don't need to file an additional bill in order to treat this bill as it should have been treated as it was foul and process. Again, it was sent to rules, I'm not sure what the conditions were that it went from rules without a hearing. I know that the rules, chairman is not available today but certainly we must all agree under our rules it did not follow the same and proper course. So we just ask that we follow the course it was initially intended to go on. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Gitter rise? To debate motion a second time. The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. The argument on the motion of why we should support it is the fact that therefore we can fully vet it. We spent the last this minute. Are you with or not we can fully fit this bill. The only dispute with this bill is the individual. Vote the motion down and then we'll sit here and debate, if it goes to rules and comes back we going to have that debate anyway. So this is your chance to slow down the process, [xx] process this has everything to do with the fact that they don't want to vote on the bill, this is about an individual, they prefer not to be replaced with an individual for not replace him that's what it is. For what purpose does the lady from Macroberg representative Corney rise? To speak on the motion. Lady has the floor to debate the motion. Thank you Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the house. I had hoped that we wouldn't get to this point that we we'd be debating this out on the floor today, I sort of have a little resentment of us being accused of it here on this this is about the person, when indeed it isn't. We may have other names and they say some of you may have had have their names for what we're objecting to is the fact that this has everything to do with the process they will spend [xx] the senate Mr. Speaker if you bear with me about I am speaking to the motion to refer back to rules the spell was found on the senate, it was referred to the roles committee, it has not come out and now it was filed sent to roles and miraculously [xx] serve on roles, when I saw this song on today's calendar, I was somehow now maybe there was a lot of charter when it was re referred yesterday maybe it was done after we left the chamber [xx] do we adjourn I don't know when it was recurred yesterday but that's when the real refferal happened, I've been here 13 years the best legislation that we do is legislation, that is fully valid, through our committee process, so I'm asking that to reconsider. Let us have that process and I do have one question for Represent Geter[sp?]. Does the gentleman from Mecklenburg to lady from Mecklenburg. Absolutely [xx]. Thank you represenative Jay Hay, we're talking about process would you please enlighten us since we're ready now leave it back to the rules committee to let it go through vetting committee process, what was the process used to determine and select Reverend Grant I'm not sure how that's germane to the motion. I'm be happy to have that conversation with the bill, Mr.
Speaker, but if you think it is, I'll answer the question now. I will hold that question for after the vote on this amendment. I will hold it when we debate the bill. Thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Orange, Rep. Insko, rise? To debate the motion. The lady has the floor to debate the motion. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, I rise to support Rep. Carney's statement. I'm a proud Southern Baptist, and I resent the implication that I don't hold Reverend Graham in high regard. I do, but this bill should debated in committee. We don't need to be doing committee work on the floor. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg Representative Riley rise? To debate the motion The gentleman has the floor to debate the motion Thank you Mr. Speaker on of the interesting thing about our rules is there certain types of bills that require referral to a committee? One of the things I discovered as a finance chair that there were times a bill has to be referred to my committee, but it doesn't have to be heard by my committee, and can, under our rules be re-referred back to the house, and considered immediately this has happened in this session and without any objections. It's my understanding the bill was referred to rules, it was brought back from rules according t o our rules to say it's processed has been violated is not an accurate statement at this time. As to whether or not we are doing committee work, I understand there could be debate if this had started from, 'what are we going to do about government Aycock we have a bill with a name. If this is voted down, there will be the opportunity for a bill with a different name or a bill with no name where we debate it. The question before us today is, would we like to replace governor Aycok with the Reverend Graham, and do we want to begin that process of getting permission today. It is not a difficult question. If Rev. Graham is not your choice, vote no, thank you. The question before the house is the motion made by representative Earl, drawn to, we refer. The referred house bill 540 to the committee on rules counting operations the house, those in favor of the motion will vote I those who oppose will vote No, the clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine will record the votes, 43 having voted the affirmative and 67 in the negative, the motion fails. We are now back on the bill, what purpose does the gentleman from [xx] Representative Lucas rise. Thank you Mr. Speaker chambers will speak on the bill. Chambers recognized to debate the bill. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. I've been sitting here with somewhat of a heavy heart as we attempt to replace our favorite son with another that favorite son. I have the utmost regard for the reverent Billy Graham certainly he is a favorite son, but then the essence about opt, this state is fortunate to have many, many favorite sons and so for us to now do these it seems like in a hurry and not with as much thought, as would perhaps could give this. Certainly Reverend Graham would be an excellent choice but I wonder in my own mind and perhaps in some of your minds if there are others who deserve considerations who have not been afforded that opportunity. Respect and tolerance for divergent opinions is what I thought this is body was all about and I still would like to feel that way. we are, I think, about to replace a favorite son
with an educational background with a favorite son who probably also has an educational background but has a better religious background. I have no problem with that, but I still recognize the founding fathers' perspective of separation of Church and State. If we are going to stay with it, and obviously it seems like we're not going to stay in the educational vein, we could submit names like Jim Holshouser or Jim Martin or Terry Sanford or Jim hunt or Dean Smith. Those are just some suggestions. I don't know if we're doing this state the proper service, and certainly we're not doing the proper respect to the Reverend Graham, when we narrow these to one individual. I wish that we wouldn't rush this, and that we would give this thorough consideration because we are attempting to do this for a long time. Not just for an ephemeral space of time. Think about it, ladies and gentlemen. For what purpose does the gentleman from Rockingham, Rep. Jones, rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, I'm honored to be one of the primary sponsors on this bill. I remember not very long ago the grand family stood in this chamber and was honored by this House, and I will tell you that for me it was one of the greatest days in my service years. I'll never forget it. We've heard some exchanges and some comments made so far that I don't necessarily really want to go there, but I will say this. For those is one argue that this is a bad idea because of separation of church and state. I would just point to you to the state constitution for North Carolina which opens we the people of the North Carolina grateful to Almighty God, the server and ruler of nations. And goes on to acknowledge the dependence upon to him, for the continuous of those blessing to us in our posterity. So apparently the writer and framers of our constitution were not as schooled in separation of church and state is some of our staying colleagues. Billy Gram is a great man, we are blessed in North Carolina to have had many fine people that have done many great things, and the word great sometimes is used too often, but Billy Graham is someone that I feel very sure. We're not a democracy, we're a representative republic and we're here representing the people of North Carolina. One person is not going to choose who this statue would be of. It's going to be the elected representative and senators of this State of North Carolina if it happens. But I feel very sure that at least in my heart if the people of North Carolina had the opportunity to vote on this, I believe they would vote for Billy Graham. Now how can I say that? We've heard several people mentioned today are all I'm sure wonderful people that did great things, but I would ask and all honesty how many people in this state would even know who some of those folks were, without having to be told? We stand up and say Billy Graham the vast, vast, vast majority of people in this state would need no more explanation as to who Billy Graham is. I think my colleague already mentioned that he has been listed as one of the ten most admired men in the world, for the last 52 consecutive years. I would go out on a limb and say that no one else in the world, holds that distinction. Since the 80 appearances, 52 consecutive, too many awards and recognitions to mention, Presidential medal of freedom that the nation's high civilian award, the Congressional Gold Medal, the highest award Congress can bestow on a private citizen, on and on and on. So I'm not going to bliver[sp?] the point that think we've probably talked too long about this
on the motion and everything else, but I will say this, I will proudly cast my vote yes for this today, and quite frankly if there is anybody in the chamber that thinks that we haven't done this right or that their is somebody else out there that you think the people of North Carolina would prefer to have then vote no. That is your right today, but we have every bit as much of a right as the representative of the people not to claim that one person or a couple of people or whatever are making this decision, but that the representative the elected representatives of the people of the State of North Carolina, are making a choice, to replace someone who rendered great service to this State but served as governor over 100 years ago, and it had his time a statue for a long time in Statutory Hall and we'll make this replacement today, I urge you to vote Green, and let's honor Billy Graham as we should. [xx] of Connie is recognized. Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to place my question now to Representative Jeter. [xx] Representative Jeter, I was just curious as to what your process was, or the process used to select this name of Rev. Graham to replace Governor Aycock. The process we used was walking through the United State's National Statutory Halls last year and looking around and [xx] because right now they are kind of not in usual places because the construction US capital and deciding that I thought we needed a different representative. Follow up Did you? Sure I will rephrase it, did you and as the primary sponsor of this bill, did you use the process of names being submitted of potential replacement of sons, and daughters of North Carolina did you go through a process of name stem submitted to look at, or you did just, arbitrary select are you along with whomever else, select Rev. Graham? No, I considered the entire population, and everyone who's been in North Carolina, and the judgement that I filed, and keep in mind anybody here is welcome to file the bill. Structured govern A Corpsman here says 1932, says 1937 he could have been replaced till 2010, it had been denied. So the decision, it was my decision, with concentration with others because I felt like, and I still feel like, that Reverend Graham was the best replacement. Follow up Mr speaker. [xx] And I prefer to speak but I really want this questions to be answered by the bill sponsors, so another question is, If this bill passed today, and there were other bills that were able to have been filed which we've passed that deadline now And they would be voted down or if they were passed, I guess it's confusing I'm trying to make that point that you have in your bill, you have in your bill a sanctuary whole selection committee that is then created after the fact in my opinion, now I guess my question goes back did you give any thought, to creating so that everybody in this chamber could have had an opportunity to submit names or people North Carolina that could have had an opportunity to submit names at a very fair and open process. And then a sanctuary whole selection committee will then look at those names and determine which one or two could be sent forward here to this chamber. answer is I think two per question, that could be that much North Carolina as per education so bare with me, excuse me. The first per question
is the committee is, not necessarily, and I understand the terminology, but the committee is designed to pick the sculpture, raise the funds, and do those things in order for these to be put in place the appropriate time in the future so, the committee was not designed to select the individual, don't you appoint I filed this bill before the filing deadline anybody could have filed their bill before the deadline, there was no it was no secretiveness to it. I will assume that when I turned it in to the principal clerks office it showed up on the dashboard just like every other bill has. So, I'm not really sure what to say, I choose Billy Graham because that's who I think is the best person. Could always be a different way of doing things? Certainly. But to say that I think this was not a fair process, I would respectfully disagree because this is the bill that I and the other three primary sponsors believe was the right path. Rep. Jeter, you have the floor, but there is something we have to do because it is three O'clock. If the pages will come up to the front, so we can thank you for your service today. Pages, thank you so much for helping us. This has been an interesting week probably busier than most, and I hope you'll come back again as representatives of your own districts some day. Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker may I continue? On my respond based. Just amount pages again thank you for being here with us this week, you are dismissed. Have a nice weekend, hopefully we won't be too far behind you. The gentleman from Mecklenburg has the [xx] to respond to a question from the lady from Mecklenburg, the gentleman has the floor. Hey representative Cory let me, I am not trying to be vague on my answers so let me try to be as direct as I can and I know, I decided that I thought Billy Graham was the best choice based on people that I spoke with. Was it some scientifically significant polling data? No, it was not. I did went to people who I felt with it and they great in the process by all admission this was not done in uphauling of the state but I filed and I actually filed as you all know the 15th I guess now we might argue 14 and 15 perfect bills. We talked about this already in the chambers. I and in Paul North Carolina on those 14 bills either are made the decision of what I thought was best and that's the process I went through now you may have chosen a different process and I fully respect that, but this was a decision that I thought was the right way and the right person at the right time. thank you, may I speak on the bill. The lady from Mecklenburg has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to it was a [xx] any more than you do, but all of these questioning back and forth, it's clearly indicative of when we when we bypass the community process, we don't have the opportunity for a member to say to the bill sponsor, would you be willing to work with us to create this statute commission so that we can open this up rather than just one member putting in a bill for one person, and I noticed the sponsorship is always a partisan bill that others could have signed on to. It is critical for us to continue going forward from this point, to not bypass our committee structure, we've spent a lot of time already and a few weeks here doing committee work on the floor, and it should be done in committee. Even when the bills have gone through a committee, there's still clean up to be done on the floor, and I've been here long enough to know that it's going to go on, but I do want to make one thing clear, and I'm not going to speak for all the members of the democrat party, but I'm going to speak for myself yet once again.
I spoke on this for when we honor the Graham family, and that was honoring with Graham. My grandfather too was a baptist minister, my grandmother had polio, one of my grandmothers, she was bed ridden. As a child, I grew up listening to Billy Graham, my family members went to crusades. So this is absolutely not about, and I do resent, that then refer that we're trying to not select Billy Graham. I don't know if he's the right choice or not. I don't know if Terry Sanford, if anyone that names instead of them mention that there is a right choice or not. If we're going to do something of this significance I would have hoped that we would had a process we know that vast majority of us when the state heard the outcry of Governor Akot Bandriment[sp?] being removed. Did any of us ever here jump in there and try to create that committee? No we didn't and I'll admit that. Did we put forth a bill? No. But when we heard there was this bill moving forward those of us on roles, know that we would have the chance to talk about it, and maybe work through some concerns, and may be change the court solved of that bill, though we're given that opportunity therefore we have one amendment to try and get this one back to votes so that we can do these collectively as body with dignity and honor and I'm so sorry that we have the dissolved bill and for the grand family may be listening, to Rev. Graham he is still alive, this is by no means meant disrespectfully to your family well, we're debating today is a process that was not followed. Thank you Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the lady from Orange, Representative Insko, rise? To debate the bill. The lady has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker this bill is dividing our state. We represent various districts around the state. It's clear this body is not united on this bill. It's not our place to create this kind of division within our state. We should be working on issues that unite us and we should be working to pick a representative of our state to put in statue that we can all support I don't think the Graham family will feel honored by having a divisive debate like this around Reverend Graham, and I would still hope that you would send this back to committee, and let's do this the correct way. For what purpose does the lady from Buncombe, Rep. Fisher, rise? Oh, there she is. To ask the sponsor a question. The bill demands our questions. Does the gentleman from Mecklenburg yield to the lady from Buncombe? Absolutely. He yields. I didn't realize we gotten that down in the cue. Rep. Jeter, thank you for your offering and as a person from western North Carolina where Reverend Graham currently resides, I have all kinds of respect for he and his family. My question for you is what happens next in this process? If your bill passes in this committee to raise money and pick a sculptor and all of that happens. Tell me what's next and what's your contact? How did you figure out how to do this because I may want to use it in the future the process. Thank you. Thank you representative Fisher, an excellent question. We actually spoke to the architect of the capital who is the office that you have to go through and the process is pretty clear, constitutional well I don't know if it's constitutional but probably not constitutional but and federal statute the rules and regulations of the Capital how this process happens. So we reached out to the architect at the Capital we look at the seats that had been recently changed and saw that process ultimately, we pass an authorizing resolution, ask the governor to approve it which is at the step we have today, then you'll have a couple of options, the
option is theoretically a lot of states actually pay for it themselves, in fact Governor Aycock statue was paid for by the state of North Carolina. In my opinion, I thought that having the actual cost of the sculpture and the placement and all that paid for through individual private fund raising was a better path this is why I felt like now was the time to do it. So I'm sorry I'm not trying to get off track I'm long [xx] to this we know. So, assuming this passes, assuming it gets out of this building, assuming the governor signs it, then the community would be established, we would go through the words you have to get to permission of the architect in the capital which is another step in this process. I'm happy to give you the information on the gentleman's name whom I have spoken to numerous times and work with Senator [xx] office I know that Senator [xx] is working with Congressman [xx] and Congressman [xx] office so this has been something that you that includes the federal level, but the Architect of the capital is I think, the key next step in the process. For what does the gentleman from [xx] represent the [xx] the gentleman may state his inquiry, thank you Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker I think that the gentle man from [xx] made persuasive argument from Rev. Graham my unquity of the chair is, I see him as a great candidate for this, since there was no opportunity in committee for other outstanding alternatives to be presented your intent to rule any amendments today that would [xx] other potential candidates out of order. Correct, they would not be [xx] to the bill, that's correct Sir. for what purpose does the gentleman from Scotland represent the [xx]. Does the gentleman from [xx] yes. He yields. Representative Jeter, sitting here as many others ask you a question. Have you contacted the Graham family about this honor? I have been in communication of the grand family yes. Second question. Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? I do. He yields. OK question do you think that the Graham family is pleased with the debate on the floor today knowing that Reverend Graham was a man that wanted to bring the state together, and bring people together as a preacher of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ. That he would be pleased with what's going on today, and his family listening to this argument today? After 15 years of marriage I'm hesitant to guess what anyone thinks. I guess that's going to be up to each individual follow up question. Does the gentleman yield to a third question? Certainly. He yields. Representative GGgester, Stanley just asked you a question and this is a serious, do you believe this is a serious matter? Absolutely. Next question. Does the gentleman yield to additional questions? Yield all questions. Yield OK The question is, just hold this for a minute, the question is, do you think the represent is grow up, that the preacher is concerned about a earthly honor versus a heavenly honor, way beyond this bill was sold down, yet you believe that he would really wants to get a mention again, will really be pleased with these conversations today? If I understand your question correctly representative Peters, everything I know about Reverend Graham and everything I know about his teaching over the past multiple decades is that he is much more concerned about religious things and he is earthly things. So I would image that this is more about honoring North Carolina and one of its signs than this for his own I just so eager because I'm plotting to have one and I don't believe you guys. Second be a mistake Gentleman from a Scotland has the floor to debate the bill. Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen, this is a very serious matter up for all of us get up to this afternoon and I'm just really concerned with the not being able to have debate on this matter, and I know every time the decision opens so many of you have prayed and wonderful prayers that you've prayed but I think this is a divisive issue that we should not be engaged in this afternoon I just think we just need to take time on this bill, give everybody a chance, Billy Graham my family like your family visited Billy Graham of the years, but I just think sometimes we're hypocritical in the way we do something versus other thing.
I just do not believe ladies and gentlemen that the Graham family is pleased with this type of conversation we're having this afternoon. Surely as a gospel preacher myself, I will not want anybody to be making this type of decision on me, on my life or my work that will be a divisive as what we are this afternoon, so brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, lets look at this and take time on this issue. Thank you for just allowing me to share that, thank you. Mr. Speaker. For what purposes does the gentleman from Caplan, Representative Floyd rise. An inquiry with the chair. The gentleman may state his inquiry. Mr. speaker this is a very good debate and I'm enjoying this sitting back here but my inquiry to you is how long will this process be going? Not much longer thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Guilford representative Blest[sp?] rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the house, a two days after Christmas, I had an opportunity, a rare opportunity anymore to go see a movie, and I wasn't not really familiar with the movie. I had seen the book unbroken in the book's stores. I had seen a movie trailer but I went and saw that movie and didn't know anything about the man when I saw it and he was very inspiring. It was about the life of Louis Zamperini he was a troubled youth that somehow made it in the track and field and was almost Olympic champion at the Berlin games in 1936, even Adolf Hitler said something good about him watching the games he was widely expected to win some golds in the 1940 Olympics but events got in the way and he ended up in the United States Army aircore was crushed in the Pacific, survived something like 80 days on a raft with someone else, they were lucky that they would catch birds or fish, they ended up captured by the Japanese and they spent three years almost three years in captivity and the movie went into this the incredible hardships that he had to endure and was just so amazed that somebody with through this the movie ended with the end of the war, and I just had to go right there and buy the book and could hardly put it down and the book went further into his life, the movie didn't he ended up because of the psychological scars that had not healed, he ended up a broken man, his wife was about to leave him, he was losing his job and his wife talked him in to go to a Billy Graham crusade in Los Angeles. Mr. Speaker, for what purpose does the gentleman from Richmond, Representative Gipson raise. Is this movie review a reminder the debate we're having here today. The chair would encourage the gentleman from Gearfort to focus his comment to the bill at hand. And I was just about to get to that, he went to a Billy Graham crusade as a broken man, and his eyes were opened and it turned his life around, you had a broken down person who was changed in his heart, and the whole life and trajectory of change, and that's the kind of man we're talking about putting in statutory someone who has affected positively millions upon millions of Americans and people in the world. What more who can compete, what more could you want out of someone to represent our state in the United States capital than someone who have that positive effect, way more I believe than any politician you could name, or any sports hero or anything, this is a man that made a difference, critically in millions upon millions of lives, and I'm kind of distressed to see the the debate in here and the resistance to doing this. I support the bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston representative [xx] rise/ with due and equal as preck a prose both sides there are. I move the previous question. The adjourn from the guest as being vice chair, the committee and rules operation is in order. Moves the previous question, the House Bill 540.
Question before the house is the motion for the previous question the House Bill 540, tho in favor will vote now. The court will open the vote [xx] [xx] glock-in machine record the votes, 59 having voted in the affirmative and 41 in the negative, the previous question is adopted. They're precent to the rules, they're House Minodulator[sp?] has given three minutes for a summation. Thank you Mr. Speaker, appreciate your indulging this discussion in and let's do this committee work on the floor. I think that, first of all let's recognize and appreciate Representative Tolbert's motion as a vice chair rules. I don't appreciate the fact as a fellow vice chair rules I did not know this bill had been moved and we did not get a a chance to debate it in rules and make any improvements so you would not be sitting here today, going through this discussion. So we're doing a disservice to the Graham family by having this happen. And we all had a unanimous resolution as we honored them. And this is not about whether or not Reverent Graham should be honored and I don't think he has anyone in this chamber who loves North Carolina more than he does, loves the people of North Carolina more than he does, maybe equally but not more, and I don't think he would presume to speak for everyone in North Carolina and all those members of his faith to listen to them and interchange and interact with them and presume on his own to make a decision without them. he would not try to lead his flock without them being able to follow. We had some things we talked about well we talked too long about this on the floor. If we're committed the whole which is what we're actually doing by skipping our committee process and ignoring our leadership and those who have been appointed over our committees if we're going to do that and have a committee of the whole on the floor, these are kind of discussions we're going to have. We're going to have to be committed to this kind of time. If we decide we want to skip our process, then everyone of you has to be committed to say I'll stay on the floor of the house and entertain this as a committee of the whole because that's the choice that I made. So you're doing a disservice again to say I want skip the committee process, but I want to skip my duty on the floor of the house, and yet still, make a decision for the people of North Carolina, without giving my fellow house members a chance, to talk to them, and without them knowing fully what I intend to do. This is not a house of one man and one person's decision. This is not a house where we take a walk individually, and then we come back and tell the people of North Carolina, 'this is the decision, I made and you will live it and you will like it and you won't have a chance to have your elected representative respond or participate in it. So I'm disturbed that the legend and the legacy of Billy Graham will be soiled by this event, and I'm really disheartened by anyone who would promote this type of activity. I just really hope, going forward, that we learn a lesson about doing a committee of the whole on the floor gentleman time is expired. Thank you Mr. Speaker, thank you fellow house members. The majority leader has yielded his three minutes to the gentleman from Rockingham Representative Josh who has recognized to speak in summation for the majority. Thank you Mr. Speaker and I will try not to take three minutes. I do want to agree with one thing that the minority leader just said and that is that one person will not make this decision today. It will be made by a majority of the elected representatives of the citizens of North Carolina. I want to disagree with something else that was just said and that is that nothing that is said here or done here today will in any way, soil the legacy of Billy Graham. His legacy is secure and there is nothing that you and I or anybody on this floor can do or say that could soil it in any possible way I'm trying to be very careful when I stand on this floor and not question the motives of others because I know that is the wrong thing to and I don't appreciate it when my own motives are questioned, so I will not question the
motives of anybody who spoke against this today but I will say this, I have been here long enough to learn a little bit about the way this place operates and is operated for decades. and I do know that it is not now that unusual for a bill to be sitting in the Rules Committee and to be brought to this house. And I know that that was done when the other party was in control and I know that it's been done when this party is in control, but I never heard such a debate as we have had today about the fact that a bill was brought up from Rules to the floor of the house. I want to close with this. Billy Graham is quoted as saying this, my one purpose in life is to help people find a personal relationship with God. In earlier quoted the pre-amble the North Carolina constitution which tells me that that is consistent, with what the founders of this constitutions believed. Billy Graham has spoken into over 200 million people, and lots audiences, and countless others in television. He's spoken in more than 180 if I have countries in this world for feeling his purpose. And as I cast my vote for this today and it would be grain, it would be because I believe that the Bill Graham's purpose are higher purpose than any political leader, higher purpose than any sports person, and even in civil rights leader with all due respect, you vote your consent to day, you vote for or against it, but lets be clear that this is not something that one person is making a decision to us, and it's not all about the process, You can decide whether this is the best person or not to be on that statute, I ask for you to vote green. Question before the house, is the passage of house bill 540 on it's second reading. Those in favor will vote I, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 71 having voted in the affirmative, and 28 in the negative, house bill 540 passes its second reading, and will without objection be read a third time. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 540 on its third reading, those in favor will say I. those oppose will say No. The Is do have it, hose bill 540 passes, and will be sent to the senate. Mr. Speaker. Notices and for what purpose does the gentleman from Gatson representative Tobit rise? For a motion Mr. Speaker. Gentleman is recognized for motion. I move that house bill 804 short title, LC Smith Act be removed from house judiciary four and will re-referred to house judiciary two. Is that objection, so ordered. Notices and announcements the clerk has announcements, clerk recognized. Hose committee on health will meet Monday April 20th at 4:00 PM in room 643 LOB, house committee on judiciary one will meet Monday April 20th at 3:30 PM in room 415 LOB for our purposes the gentleman from Rockingham, Representative Jones rise. One announcement. Gentleman is recognized for an announcement. Thank you Mr. Speaker clerk may have just said this, but just to remind members of the health committee we will meet in room 643 15 minutes after session today. For what purpose does the gentleman from Merken berg representing the [xx]. For an announcement, gentleman has the floor for an announcement. I want to go go ahead and now since the committee on planner will meet Tuesday, April 21st today 30 and 544 LOB and for representative Lukis, the bills that are already noticed to a house bill 343 alled ATJ 543 I mean laws to pertaining to the NC medical board HB426 drivers licence to stopped down like [xx]. There is also the potential that our occupancy tax bills for Grolse Borrow and Graham County is reported out by the occupancy tax committee will be added to the agenda. For what purpose does the lady form Cordred, representing Macreg rise? For an announcement. Lady for announcement. For the members of he environment committee we'll have to have a special meeting in order to make our cross over deadline, look for it on your emails there will be a sun time once we find an agreement on time, thank you. For what purpose does the lady form Bankhma representing the officials rise?
Foe an announcement [xx] Mr. Speaker. The lady has the fore floor for an announcement. Democrats to meet one hour before session on Monday in our usual rim. For what purpose does the gentleman from for representative Johns and the last, point of breath, personal privilege. The gentleman is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. I didn't intend to speak today, But I wanted to mention something that has been in my mind over the past few days and that is about. representative Pitman, I'm going to put politics aside for one minute, OK. Cause you know just after listen to a fact at 40, it just seems to be a division and it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate because as was said earlier that we soaring the name of an individual that I do have high regards for and we made it a partisan issue and it shouldn't be, but I want to get back to Representative Pitman[sp] because 35 years ago, I suffered exactly what he is going through right now, I lost my daughter 33 years ago, this month on the 28th and it's really ironic when I heard it. Forgive me I'm a little emotional about this cause think about my baby all the time and when it gets around this time of the year and around November, it's difficult cause her birthday was in November and she died on the 28th [xxx] of April and I can only imagine I know what's going through, and I must say this unless you lost a child, you have no clue what's going on. So but I'd like to do right now is employ each in every one of you. Those have young children and even adults children to call them and say I love you. Just say that, you'd be surprised because you don't know what's going to happen the next day. You can assume that child or that adult is going to be there and I just feel for representative Peter Minter. I do. Honest to God I do because unless you've been there you have no idea. Yes we go slow on with a regular situations but he is down here dealing with issues that he probably didn't imagine will ever have to deal with but I just want to say that because you know just all this to beg in all this you know has got to sit back sometimes in you know I think about a lot of things in that real hit me when I heard about it. It did because let's say you know I went through the same thing. I go through it everyday. Really? 33 years ago she was only four years old. 33 years Thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash representative Collins Dress. One announcement. Gentleman has floor for announcement. Members of state Personnel committee just kind pre-warming you. We're going to kind we try to escape in a meeting [xx] attentively we're going to schedule that from next Wednesday at 2.00 O'clock. We will be hearing the bills that we didn't hear last time, you're going an email on that, but I don't we've had anything aded to the agenda since I emailed you the agenda last time and we were unable to go through all those bills 50 minute be. What purpose does the gentleman from Camballin Representative floid address? A form of gentleman recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Mr. Speaker we debated House Bill 540 for about an hour and though members of my party was in opposition, against the proposed bill. I saw Billy Graham as an icon to me and I was going to support the bill. But when a representative makes that he is higher then any one of your civil rights leaders. It really put me into a different mood need to do something that I did not want to do. I enjoy his presentation, but that particular comment, changed my decision on this house floor. Thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Guston, Representative Hastings rise? Mr. Speaker, I was in the chamber and attempted to vote for House Bill 264 and wish to be recorded as voting I. Chairman will be recorded as having voted I. For our purposes, the gentleman from Stokes, Representative Holloway rise.
Make an announcement. The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. Thank you Mr. Speaker, all those who are planning to go to south Carolina and play the basketball game, I absolutely have to have your size for your jersey or t-shirt by tomorrow because I want to place the order. So if many of you have already turned it in but if you are going to go, please send an email to my assistant here at the legislative of account and I will come Monday night or will send out another email, we'll follow up somehowjust to make sure we got everybody but please please get that into us by tomorrow so that we can place that order. For what purpose does the gentleman from [xxx] ever Representative Davis Ross. Make an announcement. Gentleman is recognized for an announcement. Thank you Mr. Speaker, to touch on what Representative Barley said about the possible calendar for finance on Tuesday, the House Finance Subcommittee on tax will meet Monday afternoon I'll let you know as it still on the process of trying to find a room for their purpose, hope we get the bills out so there could be [xx] in finance on Tuesday. Those who are just recently appointed to their subcommittee are J Adams, Jayan Bishop, John Blass, Becky Cony, Trish Catherine, and Harry Wong and the nurse will go ahead and give a room. Thank you. What [xx] does, the gentleman from Rocking-ham representative John D Ross from my personal privilege Gentleman recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you Mr. Speaker I wanted to take the opportunity to stand and clarify once again that I have been speaking of Billy Graham and his purpose I said that his purpose, his stated purpose, his life's purpose, was that people would have a relationship with God, and I said that that purpose was a higher purpose than any of the other classes of people that I spoke, and if I went to apologize to my good friend Representative Floyd if he misunderstood that statement and I just ask for his forgiveness, thank you. The Chair would encourage both the gentleman from Camble and then the gentleman from Rockingham and any other and I believe the gentleman from Gilfort to some extent, be careful using a point of personal privilege to debate a a resolution or a bill, a point of personal privilege is not an order to re-state or to re-engage a debate, if we go down that road we may be here a while. So, I would I understand the emotional nature of that bill and I understand the sentiments of all the members expressed but if the members would please keep that in mind with the chair will be most appreciative. For what purpose does the gentleman from Pennsylvanian Representative Whitmire rise? To make an announcement. The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. Members of the Homeland Security Military Veterans Affairs Committee, I want to thank you for your flexibility that 12 noon set on Thursday is tough we've had to adapt many times to preempt probable changes next week with bills in the offer that need to go on. I will be looking for a slot you will be well announced in advance but don't depend on it being Thursday, keep an eye on your email please thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Duke Representative Dixon rise? For a moment of personal privilege. The gentleman is recognized to speak to speak to a point of personal privilege. Mr Speaker I change my mind two or three times today about whether to do this or not, but I'd like to speak to the decorum of the house for just a moment. If I could have everybody's attention. The gentleman has the floor. My daughter and granddaughter were here yesterday and when they got home, my daughter was very complementary of the Sergeant-at-Arms. When they were sitting out there, my daughter crossed her legs and her foots was touching the rail and the Sergeant-at-Arms very kindly and considerably I asked her to take her foot off the rail. In the process of explaining that to me, she asked me daddy, what kind of rules They all have. And I have pounded that mr speaker recently you heard there are years to gamble our many occassions I want
to personally apologize to you and the members of the house and those times when I was out of order and being in the wrong place at the wrong time and the last two sequences this is abuse of personal privilege was entirely out of order. Members if the house, with all due repect when we have these presented in the gallery and I know we got a lot to do but I promise to you Mr. Speaker that I will be more diligent and observing the decorum of this house as I go forward. For what purpose says the gentleman from Dam representative Haugh a rise. Moment of personal pledges The gentleman is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you Mr. Speaker and thank you fellow house members. I want to thank you for again indulging our discussions this afternoon and also as we talk about losses by members would ask to keep Representative Luois and his family in your thoughts and prayers and extend every courtesy to him that you can. Again appreciate your indulgence this afternoon and hope that will show the same separation to representative Louis and his family, going forward as you do to representative Pitman and his family. Thank you. for what purpose does the gentleman from Guston[sp?] Representative [xx] rise? For motion Mr. Speaker. Gentleman may state his motion. I move that House Bill 681 currently resting in public utilities to best suite the calender be re-referred to finance be referred to finance and then a re-referral to public utilities to better suit the calender. And ladies and gentlemen simply changing the order the two committees you have objection? So this is one short title please I apologize Mr. Speaker for my that short title tireless note count on Carolina the energy right payer protection act. That objection so worth. Members just be brief here I want to follow up on what Representative Dickson said. I would ask and coming out to spend most of my time sitting out there, I've only been speaker for a few months now so I understand the necessity of being able to leave the chamber and do things and and this is often the only time that we're all together in one place so I know it's a convenient time when members need to discuss. I know those in the gallery may notice folks talking in conversations that's always been that way to some extent because it's a, and I know a couple of days ago with the bill following deadline we had that, but I would ask members to really think extra hard you would be surprised how a conversation back in the back can be heard even up here, and how I can destruct those forks here, and how it looks to folks in the gallery who're watching, and your honor we do all the procedural things at first, I'm doing the committee the re-referrals and the [xx] and I know that's not particularly interesting what I would ask that members if you have conversations, we are going be a little more robust, perhaps to take this outside and to try to keep the conversations down, I have had to gavel down and you are my I certainly don't want to do that I don't want to hold members out of order for anything, but we do have the rules, and I would ask that, and the rules are there the rules are there to be considered to the other members of this house, so I would ask [xx] if he would go on forward or perhaps try to cut down on some of the chatter and talk, and particularly the, I don't know, more robust conversations that where five or six are gathered around, and sometimes pretty interesting conversation and I start to wonder what they are talking about, but, [xx] but I do understand folks have need to talk and certainly with the use of the various procedural, it's always good to refresh ourselves, take a look at what the personal privileges to be use for work and what is not any further notices and announcements, if not the gentleman from [xx] representative [xx] recognized for motion Thank you Mr. Speaker I move the house memory of Jean Caroline Hardson Louis. Receiving a direct notification of bills, messages from the senate, committee reports, convent reports we [xx] bills resolutions, appointment of conferees, introduction of bills and resolutions, reading of representative statements. To reconvene Monday, April 20th
at 7 P. M. Representative Torbett Moves second by Representative Stam, that the house adjourns substitute to [xx] of bills, messages from the senate, media report, coverage report, referral bills resolution, appointment of conferees, introduction of bills resolution and reading of the representative statement in memory of the mother of David. Representative David was Jing care on [xx] it's tricky in vain on Monday, April, 20th, 2015 at 7.00 P. M. Those in favor will say I, those oppose will say no the Is have it we stand adjourned. Mr. Speaker the gentleman from weigh[sp?] representative Stam is recognized to read the representative statement. Thank you Mr. Speaker members of the house. Taiwan and the United States a long standing allies who each deeply cherish the common values of freedom, democracy, human rights, and the rule of law. And whereas in the year 2012, Taiwan held it's 5th direct presidential election, and again demonstrated the strength and vitality of it's democratic systems, and whereas Taiwan serves the best interest of the Asia pacific region and the continuation of stability and growth. Taiwan and Mainland China PRC signed the Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement the ECFA in 2010. United States businesses can collaborate with innovative Taiwanese companies and Taiwan's comprehensive protection of intellectual property rights, and then use Taiwan as a spring board for entering mainland China, the PRC and other key Asian markets, and whereas since 1991 the state of North Carolina and Taiwan has enjoyed conjure and mutually benefit to a sister state relations, and where Taiwan is United State 10th largest trading partner and the United State is Taiwan 2nd largest trading partner where is the designation of Taiwan into the United State visa waiver program, is a significant step to draw travelers from Taiwan choosing The United State as a destination for trade, investment and tourism, and whereas by working together with Taiwan North Carolina welcome all opportunities for an even closer economic partnership such as assigning of the Us Taiwan bilateral investment agreement, the free trade agreement and the inclusion of Taiwan in the transpacific partnership in order to enhance the special sister State bond between North Carolina and Taiwan, and to encourage further cultural, educational and business excahnges between the citizens of both nations, where Taiwan is an active member of on the International Community with a long history of commitment to international health and huminity [xx] as well as environmental protection now therefore I along with many members of this body commend and support the democratization efforts of Taiwan and the nation's meaningful participation is the World Health Organization and the International Civil Aviation Organization as well as other international organizations and extend my most sincere best wishes for continued cooperation and success. I ask madam clerk that the clerk of the house of representatives make appropriate copies of this statement available for distribution to Mr. Steven [xx] Wong Tai, Director General of Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in Atlanta. Thank you Madam Clerk, Mr. Speaker. Special act from the senate the clerk will read Mr. Speaker sir to GS115D-2 part 1B4F and semi general resolutions 334 resolution 2015 to 2014, the adjourned resolution setting the dates of the house of the representatives and the senate to elect members to the state board of the community colleges as ordered by [xx] Hon Biden that senate will elect the following members of the state board of community colleges Dr. Jay Brghton Blackwell we're open. Clark is tweeting for a six-year term effective July 1st, 2015 ending June 30th, 2021. Respectable Sarah Lang possible Clerk. Noted. Promotion of the Chair, Committee Service Chief of House Bill 429: Amend Medical Malpractice, Health Care Provider definition is withdrawn of the calendar of April 22nd and to the committee on rules, calendar are now and operations of the house. Representative John Louis is now recognized [xx] reports [xx] Representative Jones and Lewis, Election Committee Report, House Bill 373, paper ballots by 2027 counties favor of committed substitute, un-favor original bill.committee substitute bill calendar original bill unfavorable calendar, representatives, Catrine and Mccail Raptor recognize and forth Mayor [xx] the clock will read, representatives [xx], committee report,
house bill 186 [xx] to unfavor original bill.committee substitute bill calendar, original bill unfavorable calendar. There is an committee report from the environment 571. Representative cultrand[sp?] mackgraf[sp?] environmental committee report house bill 571 [xx] invitation [xx] regulations favorable Calender House bill 638 capitalize on wet land Medication favorable count under? House group for sanity counting on the first registration favor made substitute on favor senate bill afford finance. Mis-substitute read forward committee on finance original bill unfavorable calendar. Representative Davis and Ford recognize in fir media report. Clerk will read. Representative Devas Inson house of.. Local government come forth house [xx] 469 sunset beach park in middle [xx] favorable and finance the bill is referred to finance, house bill 478 Redwood County navigable waters favorable and re-referred to transportation bill is referred to transportation house bill 492 Raeford county Raeford airport authority favorable and referred to finance, bill referred to finance 503 allow more county commissioners to redistrict [xx] refer to elections, the bill will be referred to elections, house bill 506 Fine Distribution favorable and re-referred to Finance. Bill is re-referred to Finance. House Bill 530, Local Government Inspect Building Structures, favorable committee substitute and re-referred to Regulatory Reform. Did you say committee substitute? Not a committee substitute. [xx] 530? [xx]. It's favorable, and re-referred [xx] Favorable, the bill is re-referred to Committee on Regulatory Reform. House Bill 4, Clarify Unmanned Aircraft System Law, favorable committee substitute, unfavorable to original bill and re-referred to Judiciary I. The Committee substitute upon motion of Representative Torbett, motion made earlier is re-referred to committee on Judiciary four and the original bill was personally unfavorable calendar. House bill 392 in favor child freeCWC[sp?] changes committee service two in favor of the original bill will refer to finance. Please substitute rule to finance original bill unfavorable for calendar. House bill 538 transfer warrants shock power, favorable committee substitute on favor reasonably on a refer to environment. Re-substitute [xx] environment original bill unfavorable calender