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House | May 31, 2016 | Chamber | House Convenes

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[SOUND] [BLANK_AUDIO] [SOUND] The house will come to order, members will take their sits, visitors will retire from the chamber. The Sergeant in Arms will close the doors. We ask all members and visitors to please silence all electronic devices. This afternoons prayer will be offered by Representative Susan Martin. We'd ask that all members and all guests in the gallery please stand for the prayer and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. Representative Martin. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Yesterday we commemorated a memorial day. A day to honor all armed services personnel who lost their lives serving our nation. Consider these comments capturing the spirit of memorial day that were shared in 1863 at the dedication of a new national cemetery in in Gettysburg. The World will little nor long remember what we say here but it can never for get what they did. It is for us the living to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought have thus so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. That from these honored dead, we take increased devotion to that course for which they gave their last full measure of devotion. That we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have die in vain. That this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth, that was Abraham Lincoln. Please join me in prayer, Dear Lord, thank you for blessing our great nation and state. We praise you for soldiers with the fighting spirit for a proud courageous people with the core values upheld by the Armed Services of the United States of America. For people with honor, courage, commitment, integrity, service, loyalty, duty, respect and excellence. As we honor our fallen patriots and the ideas and values those soldiers stood for and died defending, we ask your blessing on their families and friends, including those they served with. We ask your blessing on our active duty and retired military. The New Testament says there is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends. Lord we thank you for those who have gone before us and made that ultimate sacrifice for our freedom worth continuing to fight for. Help us to never forget. Give us strength, courage and wisdom to perform the work we are called to on behalf of your great people. God bless America. We ask in Jesus name, Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible [INAUDIBLE] justice for all. >> The gentleman from Harnett, Representative Lewis, is recognized for a motion. >> Mr. Speaker, the journal for May 30th has been examined and found to be correct. I move that it stand approved as written. >> Representative Lewis moves that the journal for May 30th be approved as written. Those in favor will aye? >> Aye. >> Those opposed no, the aye's have it. >> The journal is approved as written. >> Members, our nurse of the day is Heather Combs from Clemens. Miss Combs, thank you for being with us. Please join us in welcoming her with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Let's have a couple of other recognitions, our motion of the gentleman from Anson, Representative Brody, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the 2016 leadership Anson class. Would you all please stand so that we could welcome you. Thank you for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Also our motion of Representatives Avila and Farmer-Butterfield, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to members of the Arc of North Carolina, Executive Director John Nash, Rusty Bradick/g, President of the Board of Directors board member Gale Clark and Mary Williams staff.

Can you all please stand so we can welcome you as well. Thank you for being with us. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Calendar, before calling the first bill the Chair is informed that Representative Saying wishes that House Bill 632 be removed from today's calendar is that correct? The Chair will direct that the bill be removed from today's counter, will be re-countered pursuant to rule 36b. House bill 357, the clerk will read. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Representatives Stam, Faircloth, [UNKNOWN] and Hurley, house bill 357. A bill to be entitled an act of man procedure Adrius, the Grovernor of the immisibility of rate and chemical analysis results. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Lake speaker present for him Stam Rise? To move to concur in the Senate Committee substitute. Chairman is recognized for motion, the gentleman may now debate the motion. >> Thank you. Members of the house you passed this bill overwhelmingly in 2015 that looks different but the purpose and the affect is the same. That is if a analyst concludes the substance is not supposed to be, in district court they do not have to show up unless the defendant wants them to show up and subpoena them. It's a seven page bill but really one phrase of it on page line 41 to 42 is the guts of it, the affidavit shall be admitted into evidence with the testimony of the analyst and then the rest of the bill is just protection of the rights of the defendant to make sure they have noticed an opportunity to subpoena, that kind of thing. The Senate Judiciary Committee improved the bill, got lots of advice from constitutional lawyers which say one thing, the calendar doesn't show the Representative Glacier was also a primary sponsor. He was and I believe we have a good consensus bill here. >> What purpose does the gentleman from Gillford, Representative Haircloth rise. >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the forward to debate the bill. >>> Thank you Mr. Speaker. As you heard, This is an important bill for law enforcement and the court system and the criminal justice in general and the State of North Carolina. The Milendes Dias Supreme Court Case significantly changed the business operation of State crime labs across the country and we have been trying our best to move forward and do those things that are necessary so that those folks in the crime lab can do their job, get to court and have the court do it's job. The crime lab analysts are prepared and able to be in court for testimony when that's needed. Testimony skills are part of their training and their job descriptions and analysts strive to be solid witnesses for the science on the stand. The state crime lab and general assembly have worked hard to right size the forensic resources needed at the lab as our population is growing and that has been the main driver in shrinking turnaround time per analysis. This bill could provide additional opportunity to maximize scientists' time in the lab. With the new 19 toxicologist positions which we handle through our appropriations, the lab's total [INAUDIBLE] have dropped over 50% since June 2014, that is great news. [INAUDIBLE] The state's newest regional crime lab location is scheduled to open in West North Carolina, mid 22017. With state crime lab toxicologists located in the west, less travel time will be required when they're needed in court. And the last and most important point, the most critical piece of the state crime lab, is the quality of scientific analysis, the quality of analysis. The land is nationally credited and each individual analyst is required to save national certification. The law [INAUDIBLE] describes for transparency and appreciate efficiency in it's work, where you're moving forward and I praise the crime level what they are doing and I ask that you do concur. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Vance, Representative Baskerville arise. >> Question to the bill sponsor. >> Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the gentleman from Vance. >> I do. >> Yield. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, thank you Representative Stam, does this bill preclude the defense from requiring the chemical analyst to appear in person. [COUGH] State notifies this, we're gonna do this after David, no live testimony, defense objects, can the defense require the chemical analyst to come and testify live in court? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Further discussion, further debate. If not the question for the house is the adoption of the motion to concur to the Senate Committee substitute as for 357. Those in favor will vote aye,

those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] Clerk will lock the machine to record the vote, 108 having voted in the affirmative and non to the negative. The motion to concur is adopted, bills order sent to the senate by a special messenger. [INAUDIBLE] ordered in [INAUDIBLE] sent to the governor. Senate bill 71 the clerk will read. >> The conferees [INAUDIBLE] to resolve the difference between the senate and house representative on senate bill 71,a bill to [INAUDIBLE] on Act 21, require [INAUDIBLE] combustion and residuals [INAUDIBLE] to provide permanent alternative water supplies for [INAUDIBLE] residents in areas surrounding coal combustion residual surface and [INAUDIBLE] to. Extend the period of the public comment and reviewed it's proposed risk, classifications for coal combustion residual surface and [INAUDIBLE]. And three modify appointment to the coal ash management commission, the mining commission and Oil and Gas commission in accord with the holding of McCory versus Berger, house committee substitute favorable 52416, third division and gross 52516, select the final report. The senate and the house agree to follow an amendment to the house committee favorable 52416, third division and gross 52516, and the senate concurs with the house committee substitute as a house committee substitute tabled 524 16th at addition and growth 525 16th, a substitute attached proposed conference committee substitute. F71-PCCX05507-01-3. The conferees recommend that the Senate and the House adopt this report. The conferees appoint report May 30th, 2016, [INAUDIBLE] for the senate, Senator Apodaca chair, senators Harringtons, and Wales confrees for the house representative, Representative McGrady Chair, Representative Bill Dash chair. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Hinderson, Representative McGrady rise? >> Mr. Speaker, to move the adoption of the conference report. >> The gentleman is recognized for a motion. The gentleman now has the floor to debate the motion. >> Mr. Speaker if I might have staff join me on the floor. >> Chair grants permission. Gentleman has the floor. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Senate Bill 71 is a bill that will require Duke Energy to provide permanent alternative water supplies for residents near coal ash basins. Now the bill started out as a bill to put back in place the coal ash management commission, and the mining commission, and the oil and gas commission. In accordance with the holding in the North Carolina supreme court decision in Burger v McCoy, but the heart of this bill what's really special about the bill,Is will now be providing a permanent alternative water supply for residents near these col ash basins and that's a really significant thing that is occurring here. We're doing something that the law up to now would not allow us to do. The bill that we passed on Wednesday, I wanna explain why we went through a conferencing process on it. The bill that we passed on Wednesday after we were done here, we realized that there was a drafting error that occurred. Representative Miller had added an amendment which was forward looking. It was expanding potentially the group of households that would get water, depending upon where if the plume of pollution moving from a coal [UNKNOWN] basin hadn't reached a well now but at some point in future did reach a well, they would be entitled to the same permanent water supply that we are otherwise providing in the bill. So this amendment would have expanded those who get water in the future, but when we put that amendment in the bill, we accidentally knocked out a group of people who were adjacent to some of these coal ash basins, and when that was found determined I asked the senate to not concur in the bill so that we could fix that issue. We also [UNKNOWN] municipality said a small issue, there were some technical that I intended to take care of and maybe a technical correct bill but we now done all of that. In fact we do more. With the additional time under the bill that you have voted for last Wednesday, people within about 2000 yards,

1500 yards of the Col ash Basins where gonna be provided water, a permanent water supply. Since that time we were able to focus on how many others receive their health advisory from the State. That subsequently they received a letter that said basically oh, never mid. And we're left wondering whether the water was polluted or not. And we determined that we could expand to a half mile, 2640 yards. And capture literally all of those people who were first told they had potentially polluted water and then were I would never mind and so this bill now does even more than the bill that we overwhelmingly passed last week and so I recommend to you the adoption of the conference report and we had a very strong vote, a majority of both sides of the aisle on this bill. I think you probably recognize that the governor has indicated he will Veto this bill. Primarily I believe on the separation of powers issue but we have all lawyers whether with the house or the senate or central staff have told me and us that this bill meets the requirements of McCory v Berger and therefore I would hope we have as least a strong or even stronger support for the bill when you vote today. Again I ask adoption of the conference report. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Haywood Rep Queen rise? >> To speak on the conference report. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate conference report. >> Well members I think we have improved this bill with adjusting the provisions to provide water to those citizens that are impacted that is in the provision, it is a common sense provision, it is a provision that was sort of enhanced in what we passed last session in our coal ash regulations but I don't think that it is worth trading those a common sense and fair provisions for the delay in re-classifying all of these coal ash sites again reopening the process and dealing with the potential of changing a whole lot of things that we got right last time so I plan to vote no on the conference report and encourage you to do likewise. >> What purpose does the lady from Merkel Raft rise? >> To speak on the motion. >> The lady has the floor to debate the motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify something and maybe representative, is he gone, McGrady, is he there. I don't see, oh there you are. I was looking for you on the back row, that back row. [LAUGH] Can you tell me why there was a clarification letter that went out >> Is the lady wishing to direct the question to the gentleman? >> Yes. >> Does the gentleman yield to the question? >> He yields. >> He waved at me, I thought he yield. >> [LAUGH] >> Representative McGrady, would you clarify the reason that the clarity letter had to be sent out, was there truly pollution in these areas or was it a mistake by the department of Public Health when they set their own standards for Chromium whatever it was. >> Thank you for the question. I don't know that I'm qualified to answer the question fully. The environmental review commission which Rep Dickson and I co-chair actually had hearing on that whole issue. And I would tell you that hearing was discomforting for all those who attended because there was no real clarity on that issue. On the front end of the health advisory went out. And it wasn't really clear what the standard for that chemical that neither you nor I can pronounce was but it was sent out. And then subsequently either a different department of government D2 or the two together decided that the wells probably weren't

polluted and therefore they sent out the second letter. It was poorly handled in my opinion but we're trying to moot that whole thing with this bill. Because if you got a letter with the exception of I believe nine households in Rep [UNKNOWN] district, you will now get water regardless of whether your water has that chemical in it in high proportions or not. I hope I've responded to your question. >> A point of clarification. >> Thank you so much, may I speak on- >> [INAUDIBLE] >> No I just like to speak on- >> The lady is recognized to debate the motion. >> I was kinda involved with that whole thing where the department of public health made a determination. They would set their own standards for water quality, and one of them was for chromium whatever this chemical is or element is. And we found out that they had set a standard was 1000 times more restrictive than what California had set. So to me it doesn't make sense. I know we have to do this cuz people are not comfortable with their water supply now cuz we sent this letter out. But I don't think it was clarified to those folks, and I'd like to do that publicly now that there probably is no pollution there. I think we as a state need to go to someone, that maybe has a standard already set and test some of these whales. So that these folks can feel comfortable. Letting their children know that they are bathing in water possibly, if they decide not to get the water from Duke, that they're bathing in water that is not contaminated or drinking water that it's not contaminated because if you would look at the standards that we set, they were ridiculous and they have gone back now, looked at them and hopefully are looking at setting the standards to test that water where these folks can fell comfortable with it. So we made a huge mistake at the state on the Department of Public Health side. We have corrected it on the DEQ side and hopefully now we can get someone to come in and verify that there was no pollution, those folks were drinking safe water to begin with. I know Duke has the responsibility and they want to go out and supply water but even if they supplied water to my family, I would've wanted to know that for five years, 10 years, 15 years I was not drinking polluted water. So I'm hoping that we'll do that. Thank you Mr. Speaker. >> Point of clarification? >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Pitt, Representative Murphy rise? >> Clarify statement for Rep McElraft/g. >> Does the gentleman wish to to ask a question of Representative McElraft or just a point of clarification? Does the lady yield to a question from the gentleman? She yields. >> Representative I just wanted the process how this all occurred is there is no standard in the country for hexavalent/g chromium of which is a toxic level. And so they were given the direction there's nothing by the EPA. There's nothing by any other state. They were given a direction at to what level would the risk be for 1 in 1 million people, 1 among million persons to contract cancer from this [INAUDIBLE] chromium, and so they set that level. Only then did they find out that it was much much more restrictive than any other state and actually much more restrictive than what you would find in [INAUDIBLE] water. And that's when they came back and caused the confusion. That's what happened. It was a mistake on their point, but to your point, the water that these people are drinking is entirely fine but unfortunately since the message has gone out to them, no amount of reassurance on our part will really probably is going to be hopeful, so thank you Mr. Speaker. >> And the answer yo that is thank you, I appreciate that cuz that's exactly what point I was trying to make they they don't have polluted water according to what the standards are in California and where they have been set and I just want those folks to be comfortable with the fact that for 10,15, 20 years however long they've been in their house next to this coal-ash facility that they have not been polluted by Duke. There is no pollution there, but I know they feel uncomfortable drinking the water. That's what this bill is about. But I just wanted to make that clear. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston, Representative Torbett rise. >> To speak on the conference report, Mr. Speaker. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker you might recall back last week. I offered an amendment to pave the way if you would, pardon the pun to allow for reuse of coal-ash predominantly in road use, whether it be concrete or otherwise. But I just wanted to let you know that although I withdrew that, it was a language check. We were rechecking some words and action words in the language meet

exactly what we wanna get done. So I actually went and withdrew that. But you gotta love the way we have to look at our language in our bills. I think the language was for beneficial reuse. And I would hate to think we would ever pass something that did not have a beneficial reuse or a non-beneficial reuse as opposed. But we are continuing to move forward with that. All the parties involved understand and all of them agree, it's just getting that fine point and so I hope with then trust, that we'll find a mechanism to implement that during this short session. Thank you Mr.Speaker. Some members had asked me about that so I wanna bring it to your attention. >> What does the lady from Orange, Representative Insco[UNKNOWN] >> To ask representative McGrady a question. >> Does the gentleman from Henderson yield to the lady from Orange? >> Oh yeah. >> Yields. >> Representative McGrady, do you have any idea about the excess to water for 80 to one of this sites, my concern is that there are some water companies in North Carolina that while they need the health standard they also have a high level of lead in their water and so the water is orange, it's hard to drink, it erodes the pipes and also it's hard to do laundry with it, so my question is to do, is there an adequate public or private source of water close enough to all of these sites that you would know that the all the recipients would be hooked up to high quality system? >> Thank you for the system, I don't know that I know the answer to your question completely but the anticipating that there could be that issue, in that the provision for the Section One that sets out the way water would be provided. We've set up a process by which Duke, D-E-Q and typically a municipal water supplier but it could be a water district. We'd have to come together to contract for that water and we also have a independent body. It's called the State Water Infrastructure Authority that is the neutral party there. So, again the bill doesn't go into the level of detail that you suggested. But [BLANK_AUDIO] We anticipate it by setting up the process we did that that sort of question will be addressed. Moreover, the Bill also provides for a independent filtration system paid for by Duke, with respect to households that either can't be reached by water, or need that filtration. And so I think to address your concern without having to look at all of these basins and all of the potential water supplies that might be provided, we just couldn't do that with specificity in this bill.>> Follow up question. >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question. >> I yield. >> He yields. >> I may have missed this somewhere in the explanation. But is their a time table do you know how long it would take to get all this hook ups done. [BLANK_AUDIO] The agreement has to be reached by October 01,2017 and ultimate approval by the end of the year in 2017. >> Thank you. >> For what purpose does the lady from Guilford, Representative Harrison, rise? >> To debate the motion. >> Lady has the floor to debate the motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, I wanted to speak in support of Representative McGrady's motion. I really appreciate his leadership on this. I think this is a most improved version of a bill that we approved of only last week. I did wanna remind the body though that coal ash is an incredibly toxic combination of neurotoxic [INAUDIBLE] carcinogens. There's plenty of evidence of contamination in rivers and streams, in groundwater. And there are many residents who are finding extremely elevated levels of hexavalent chromium in their drinking water. So I don't wanna downplay the risk associated with coal ash. That's why I'm glad that we are re-enacting the coal ash mission to engage in the kind of oversight that we need. I wrote to EQ/g and the management of this toxic coal ash.

I don't love the delay but I think this oversight is a critical piece of proper coal-ash management within our state, so I want to encourage you to support this bill, thank you. Order the motion, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Pender, Representative Millis rise. >> To speak briefly on the motion. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. >> Ladies in the House I want to reaffirm that on Wednesday, this body strongly supported alterations to the originally filed bill that will actually strengthen the ability for individuals to actually have a piece of mind of having fresh, clean water. The provision that we all altered on Wednesday had to deal with the fact that if the coal ash basin is to our left, and the half mile line is in the isle. That if a coal-ash plume was migrating through the groundwater and heading to this direction, heading outside the half mile line, that those individuals would be at risk and you all deserve fresh, clean water for drinking and bathing also. So the amendment that we passed on the House floor have that intention. All the words that were shared associated with that, individuals speaking on that, all of those intentions laid the same, we just more or less have to make a technical alteration to it. I'll also say this. Applaud the staff that we have here. They have worked tremendously hard. They have done great work on this bill and also wanted us to allude to the fact that the conference process of having a biochemal/g legislature is a good thing, the bill we passe don Wednesday was good, it had good intentions. It even is better now with some further clarifications, I wanna thank Representative McGready, the conference committee with the house in the senate as well as our staff here, as well as the body for supporting the migration of a coal ash plum and those individuals who could be at risk in the future for having the ability to have fresh drinking water, so I commend the motion to you and ask you to vote green. Further discussion, further debate, if not the question before the house is the adoption of the conference report in bill 71. Those win favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine to record the vote. 84 having voted in the affirmative and 25 in the negative, the conference support senate bill 71 is adopted, the senate will be so notified. Representatives McNeill and Ross are recognized to send forth a committee report. The clerk will read. >> Representative McNeill and Ross, retirement committee report, House Bill 1145, retirement clarification for peace course service, favorable. >> Calendar and without objection today's calendar. So ordered. House Bill 959, the clerk will read. >> Representative Iler and Torbett, House Bill 959, a bill to make various changes to the transportation law of this state as recommended by the joint legislative transportation oversight committee. [INAUDIBLE] >> What purpose does the gentleman from Brunswick, Representative Iler rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. This bill as introduced the bill is recommended by joint legislative transportation oversight committee, makes various changes to the transportation and motor vehicle laws of the state. It's organized into four parts and by the way the bill has grown from it's original iteration from 9 pages to 21 pages. But all the parts that have been added have been [INAUDIBLE] reading themselves although there's a lot of different moving parts here. And it could have been objection to the third reading. I understand it was up to two amendments being worked on that may not be available till tomorrow so maybe any objections to the third reading [INAUDIBLE] The bill is organized into four parts. The first part concerning the division of highways in DOT. The second part, the Turnpike Authority. The third part, bicycles. And the fourth part about DMV changes. And these all in most cases are to me, they can be more customer friendly and the vision of highways, little more nimble as far as their trying to do but the vision highways is a small transportation project, local consultation, that is just increasing the dollar figure from 150000 to 250000 for consultation. The Board of Transportation on local projects involving the fiber optic usage in DOT Ride ways/g. That's been turned into a study so that they'll be setting fees for encroachment in all the different aspects not just of all being in fiber but the existing utility aspects of encroachment n the DOT Ride ways. They'll be a study that will be brought back to the oversight committee. The weigh limits should apply to middle commodities, Stewart calls and certain federal ways that entrance to the states highways to bring it in line in some case here to the federal exemptions.

There's no harm in turn back authority, the second part, this allows electronic billing foretold. This is the simplified billing however they have to be notified in writing if you want your bills to come for about by electronic means. You have to note DOT in writing and then semi annual reports towards legislative transition oversight committee, it repeals that requirement for semi annual reports. The division of bicycles and pedestrian transportation, it repeals the requirement to maintain of rodd/g cycling records. It requires that bicycles and only has to have they operate at night and only have to have a headlight but also have to have a tail light or a reflective vest mostly worn, and this comes as a result of many people coming up on the by cyclists and dark clothing at night particularly in resort areas where they use a lot of bicycles and also see the streets are becoming more bicycle friendly, so this to protect bi-cyclists at night and the can vie for the reflective vest instead of light if they chose. And there's a few other bicycle sections lower visions and DOT is supposed to provide education for bi-cyclists and motorists and has to report back to the joint legislative transportation oversight committee on that. In DMV we have some changes for the commercial driver's licence, we have extended the registration period for certain special plates, we have, I am sorry for certain plates and this plates they are usually come to you, generally I thought this would be actually due the 15th of the following month there applies I think the place that we have in this chamber for example. We have a two [UNKNOWN] certificate Used to make it more uniform bus drivers and other drivers the DNV drivers licence testing requirements and remote renewal of drivers licences where VMV electronic notice. DMV to provide an option for joint ten NC. We write a survivor sheet on application of a registration certificate or title as to check a box when you title a vehicle and that's one of the possible amendments that may be read today, or may not be read till tomorrow. [BLANK_AUDIO] It's also inspection of pre-1981 motor vehicles entitling. Formerly, it was 35 years old, I believe was the term that changed it to pre-1981 or 1980 and before, because we're now 35 years from 1980. So now the 1980 and previous. Before the signature requirement on registration card. [INAUDIBLE] Some of the new procedures that are being used. And I may have to defer to my co-chairman on what were the questions on some of these. Revise the definition of autocycle/g. I'm not an expert on different kinds of cycles including motorcycles so I may have to defer that question if one comes. And we amended the definition of mopad/g be shown it includes just electronic bicycles and then we have a vision to DMV's Medical Review Program allow data plates for employs independent data of family members just to make it the same fairness for independent leaders we have for franchise dealers or new car dealers. Delay the mandatory anticipation date for electronic lean system. Law enforcement provide accident reports to ensure that they can provide those a lot quicker in a case when someone is trying to get a rental vehicle or replacement vehicle when they have an accident. So that's the main provisions and they wanna read the bill you but I went through the main provisions and be gland to stand for any questions and request to have stuff if they have arrived I believe has to have on the floor of any questions. >> What purpose does the lady from Gilford Representative Harrison rise? >> To ask the bill sponsor a question. >> Does the gentleman from Brussel yield to the lady from Gilford? >> Be very happy to. >> He yields. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, representative I was just very interested in the bicycle safety changes and I just wanted to be clear, it looks like from initial read, it seems what this basically does, it allows cars to pass bicyclists and provides extra protection for bicyclists as they're getting passed by cars. Is that an accurate interpretation? >> Bicycles and mopeds. >> A follow up please? >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? >> I do. >> He yields. >> And in addition it seems to require some very specific requirements for bicyclists signal when they're making turns.

Is that accurate? >> There are certain hand signals that are recommended. [INAUDIBLE] requirement but I'll vow to look it up. If there's a requirement I'll have to agree with the lady's question. >> And another follow up. >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? >> I do. >>He yields. >> And I was just curious cuz we've had manifestations of bicycle [INAUDIBLE] in the past where the bicycle advocacy community has been involved did you all confirm with any other bicycle advocacy community on this change I mean the look on the face of it to be good but just curious. >> Yes we did. >> Okay, thank you Mr speaker, thank you Representative >> For what purpose does the lady from Orange Representative Insko want to ask Representative Iler a question. >> Does the gentleman from [INAUDIBLE] the lady from Orange. >> They must [INAUDIBLE] >> Representative Iler I have a lot getting a lot of calls from my own community about bicycle safety, I'm curious about this section on page four about allowing automobiles to pass into certain circumstances and I know that that's happening already and I don't have any problem with what you have in here the issue that I think it may be problematic is that if motorists passes if I cycle on a hill and as a result they have an accident. No one would be liable. Or no one would be liable or no one would have broken the law. And I'm not an attorney so I don't really know. But it seems to me like that we might make an exception here and say that it had to be on. It could not be on a hill it had to be on a level ground. >> I'm reading the provision let me consult with an attorney right beside me here. Members I believe the third reading will actually happen on this bill tomorrow as well. I think the gentleman is gonna object a third. >> I have an answer I hope. >> The gentleman has the floor to respond to the base question. Do you need any more attorneys over there. >> [LAUGH] >> Representative Insko I'm being told their is a provision for that in the statute itself. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Transylvania representative Whitmire rise? >> To speak on the bill >> Gentleman has the follow to speak on the bill. >> The questions Representative Inkco/g and I think representative Harrison had or comments. I want to remind everybody in this body we passed house bill 232 last session, I think it was unanimous, I didn't have time to check. And that put a group of stakeholders that represented from tip to tip of the state, different operating perspectives and had a heavy amount of those in the bicycle circles industry etc. It also had agricultural trucks in it and others. And the items that Representative Iler and Representative Torbett and those from transportation have in this bill looking at the 12 page report that they briefed to the over sight committee. These were all items supported by that directed study of 12 people and these were coming from the prospects of the biking community, agriculture, law enforcement city county government extra. So their is considerable buying on this measures. And some of them have been put in that inbox are too hard to do. It is not been a major update to some of this things in 38 years. And I whole hardheartedly support and appreciate house bill 959 in the work that transportation is done and I ask you support it. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham representative lucky rise? >> To see if Representative Avila yield for a question. >> Does the gentleman from Bronzer yield to the gentleman from Durham? >> Absolutely >> He yields >> Thank you representative Avila and as you know I talked about briefly just a few minutes ago. I'm gonna try and do something here I thing on third reading about this. Now here is my question has to do with with electronic billing for toils/g and where I think where were talking about is the toil/g road here in Wake County. In this section it indicates that a consumer could let the toil road authority know that she or he wanted to be notified by email about the violation. But how do you know that you are going to have a violation in order to send that notice to the toil/g road

authority.>> That's a good question. >> Follow up. >> Does the gentleman wish to further respond or yield for an additional question? >> I'll further respond. I have been told that someone who uses it frankly apparently is the toll itself in. Again you won't know this if you got a violation that it doesn't come. It kind of notoriety. The first time as you can be notified electronically also, I think your concern is somebody that doesn't come to the right address to start with. That's what your concern is I believe. >> Yes if I my follow up Mr. Speaker. >> Gentle man my I ask just you a question. >> Yes. >> Does yield to an additional question? >> Yes. >> He yields. >> The question is he would work for if you have the notification by email because for whatever reason you didn't remember to change the address on your registration so it's going to the wrong address and you never know that you violated the law. That you violated toward regulations. Is there some way you can adjust this to say that on your first mailed notice that you can at least indicate there that there is an electronic option. >> I would certainly like to work with you on DOT on that if necessary between now and tomorrow. >> Okay. And one more? >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? >> Does it make me have a response. >> Does the, let me ask you this Let me ask you this. Doe the gentleman from Durham wish to direct the question to the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dwyer. >> That's the signal that I'm mainly getting from this side. >> I would be glad to do that. I'm sorry I didn't read the signal here from across the room. [LAUGH] >> Does the gentleman from Wake yields to gentleman from Durham? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Yes If you look on line unless your something different, useless you look on lines 3031, 32 what it talks about is provided with a written consent of the registered owner of the motor vehicle or the person who had care custody to your control of the motor vehicle set forth the authority may send the bill the electronic mail so in other words you have to have in order for the authority to use this old provision they have to have the consent of the person that owns the vehicle or the person that was controlling the vehicle at the time that it was using the toll facility and basically as I understand it, if you have a transponder most of the folks with transponders are already doing their transactions electronically but you have people that are just very occasionally users they don't have a transponders and this basically allows them to set up the same system with some of those people and it just means hopefully a little bit less paper work. >> May I follow up? >> There's the gentleman from Wake to give an additional question. >> Representative dower as you know that whole area around I40 where 540 goes from five to free toll is very tricky in terms of for a driver and I've had constituents who've been upset with the very fact that they got a ticket in the first place cuz they din't realize they were on the toll road and my question here is so how would you know to tell the toll road, toll authority send me an email notice if I ever should chance upon the toll rate by mistake and is that Do you follow what I'm saying? It's hard to know what to do if you got on the toll road by mistake. >> Well to me it's not a ticket, it's a toll so in other words you drive on the road whether you intend to or not, you drive on the road they send you a bill and what this is getting at at least in my experience what this is getting at is people who are sort of infrequent users of that they haven't bothered to get a transponder cuz they don't use it enough for that to deal for them. For them to be able to correspond with the authority and to be able to get their correspondents electronically or a notice that they've encountered a toll last week or whenever electronically rather than through paper mail so this is not about funds or fees, this is about someone that has just more or less sort of an infrequent user but uses it enough that it makes sense for them to correspond electronically rather than a bill that's mailed to for the toe. >> Thank you to each of you may I speak quickly? >> The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. >> Thank you Representative Representative Dollar my concern is really about people who are not infrequent users but really accidental

users, and then what happens is that they do get their charge that they did not pay and then the fines do keep going up the fees keep going up and I think that's where my concern has been. I hear what you are saying I don't know how you helped the people who are up there accidentally but thank you for your explanation and I work further with Representative Iler for third reading, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Bankam Representative Eiger rise. >> Ask the bill sponsor a question please. >> Does the gentleman from Bronzer yeild to the gentleman from Bankam? >> Very graciously I will. >> He yields. >> Thank you, thank you. There's two parts of this bill that read like possible sweethearts deals, one has to deal with the extension of dealer plates and the other with white limit exceptions for I guess howling steel or other metal. I just wanted to hear the justifications for those two parts. >> Okay the first one about the independent data plates, I believe I understand is to make it fair for the independent dealers just like it is with the franchise dealers, or new car dealers and again that's just a fairness issue and it's been requested by the independent dealers so here and we are trying to accommodate that to make it equal with the franchise dealers. The big boys you might say, and we already got this, the independent dealers feel left out. The other thing about the still quarrels and this would come out, I think three remember my numbers right, three steel poles instead of two if I was in line with most other states instead you cross the state line and having to change the load and also I'll pass through with a different load and also some of the, part of that same provision apply to federal rate limits which are falling in line. >> Thank you. >> Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 959 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 104 having voted the affirmative and five in the negative, House Bill 959 passes the second reading. And I understand there's objection of third reading from the gentleman from Brunswick, is that correct? I understand the gentleman from Durham might- >> Yes sir I'll object [CROSSTALK] >> The bill will remain on the calendar. House Bill 1135, the clerk will read. >> Representatives Meyer, Horn, G. Martin and Hardister, House Bill 1135. A bill to be entirely met to allow the purchase of credible services of state retirement system at full cost for Peace Corps volunteer service. General Assembly North Carolina enacts. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Orange, Representative Meyer rise? >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I'd like to speak to the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Ladies and gentlemen this bill would allow veterans of the peace corp to purchase credit towards a state retirement in the same way the veterans of the military are able to, or that federal government employees are able to, once they are vested in the state retirement system with at least five years of service they would also be able to purchase up to five years of credit for their service in the peace core because they have to pay for that service when they buy into the state system, there would be no actuarial cost to the state of North Carolina to allow this to happen. There are 24 other states that have this provision on their books including Virginia and South Carolina, be happy to answer any questions, I hope you support the bill. >> Further discussion, further debate, if not the question for the house is a passage of house Bill 1135 on the second reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 94 having voted in the affirmative and 14 in the negative. House Bill 1135 passes its second reading and will without objection be ready for return. >> General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> Further discussion, further debate, if not the question for the house is the passage of house bill 1135 on it's third reading. Those in favor will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed no. >> No. >> The aye's appear to have it. The ayes do have it. House Bill 1135 having passed its third reading will be sent to the senate.

Members we have a former member with us today, former house member Representative Frank Mcgue of Union county is with us. Representative Mcgue would you please stand so that we could welcome you. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Thank you for being with us sir. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Representative McNeil and Ross are recognized to send fourth the committee report the court will read. >> Representative McNeil and Ross pictures of retirement committee report house bill 1137 treasury is 2016 investment Most of the changes they repeat further commit a substitute on several regional Bill. >> Regional Bill of favorable account. A committee substitute calendar. Senate rule 36B Matter of court. Bill will be accounted for tomorrow Wednesday, June first. For what purpose does the gentleman from Brozer, Representative Ilel arise. >> The To have the last vote recorded as no please, 1135. >> To be recorded as having voted aye? >> No. >> No. >> Gentleman be recorded as having voted no on house Bill 1135. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston, Representative Hasting drives. >> Same request me Mr. Speaker. >> Gentleman be recorded as having voted no on House bill 1135. For what purpose the gentleman from [INAUDIBLE] That same thing from Representative Blast/g. >> [INAUDIBLE] Mr Speaker. >> Okay, hold on let me get this, so Cleveland no on 1135, Blast/g no on 1135 Representative Bale, no on 1135. Representative Hagar, no on 1135. Representative [INAUDIBLE] already wish to be a quote of no, no on 1135. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Dickson. >> All right, for just a moment the house will come to order. There seem to be a lot of folks want to change their vote on this. The chair will suggest the best way to handle this would be a motion to reconsider and the body simply voting again on it and I think that would put us might resolved in a lot less potential areas on the half of the quote during [CROSSTALK] >> Mr Speaker are you reading my mind? >> For what purpose does the lady from [UNKNOWN] wish to make a motion. >> Yes Mr Speaker I am having voted on the prevailing side in 1135 I wanna ask the court for leave to reconsider. >> Lady has moved the house to reconsider on house Bill 1135. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the court will open the vote. [NOISE] [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 62 having voted in the affirmative 47 in the negative the motion to reconsider is adopted house bill 1135 is now back before the body own, I believe second reading before the. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston representative Bumgardner rise? Speak on the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. speaker. I was wondering if a lot of my colleagues were mapping, [BLANK_AUDIO] I think that that bill is what I heard said during the debate and I voted no and I don't wish to change my vote I want it to stay no is equating peace corp with military as somehow were connecting this and we're saying that's okay a peace corp volunteer to buy into the state health plan and I don't think that was a good idea. I'm gonna continue to vote no thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Horn rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. speaker to the contrary I think it's a good idea to support the bill. I think it's a good idea to continue to pull people to volunteer get out of their comfort zone, get out their and support things that are good for this country, good for the world that sustain the values that we have. As you heard the bill sponsor say, the actuarial report that shows no impact for an estate health plan. So I think it's appropriate that we would wanna continue to encourage people to be involved.These days we have a tremendous fall off. As you all know,people stepping up,take responsibility, reaching out beyond there comfort zone and be involved on behalf of this country, so I encourage you to vote yes. [BLANK_AUDIO] House [INAUDIBLE] just to know we need to correct a procedural issue.

[BLANK_AUDIO] Members the [INAUDIBLE] the chair will direct the clerk to show that the bill is on third reading. If members still wish to deal with the second reading, the chair would need another motion again just to get a procedural about the second reading. There would need be a motion to reconsider once again is that what the lady from [UNKNOWN] rises for ? >> So moved. >> Okay.The lady moves to rise us to move reconsideration on second reading again. This is just about procedure where it needs to be [CROSSTALK] What purpose that the gentleman from [CROSSTALK] >> Mr.Speaker I think I know where you're coming from with this. Could you explain it though to all the members? >> So what we did was the motion to reconsider, because we had actually passed the bill on code rating with reconsideration motion with Just on the third reading which would not remedy the fact that members had recorded votes on second reading, so what we have to get back through this whole exercise of people changing votes, we need to adopt this go back and reconsider on second reading and get it back for some second reading which was in fact the recorded vote. >> In query for the chair. >> [INAUDIBLE] recognized then inquire What is the required vote on vote to reconsider? >> A simple majority. [BLANK_AUDIO] Further discussion, further debate on the motion to reconsider. If not the question for the house is the motion to reconsider house bill 1135 under the second reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the court will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Insko, does the lady wish to record on the vote? The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 67 having voted in the affirmative and 42 in the negative, we are now back on second reading of the bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Bishop, rise? >> To speak on the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Mr. Speaker, thank you and I've been hosted to speak on this. I let it get past me in the pensions committee frankly, and to the point that Representative Horne made, I would respond that absolutely, service in the peace corp is an extraordinarily worthwhile and honorable and admirable thing. So would be serving as a missionary in foreign land. So would be serving ailing parents for a lengthy period of time. There many things that people can and do do to reflect their service to the community but in terms of making an exception from the rules of the retirement system to allow people to buy service. I submit that the reason we do that for members who've served in the military, is because serving the country and the military is unique among forms of service. Serving in the peace core with all respect to that form of service doesn't rise to the same level and it doesn't with all respect warrant, the same sort of exception. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Gilford representative Hudster rise? >> To debate the bill. >> Gentleman has afforded to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr Speaker, members I'm a primary sponsor of the bill and I conferred with representative Meyer when he brought this to my attention. Representative Ford is also a primary sponsor and representative Grier Martin. The bill sponsor pointed out earlier, there's 24 other states that do this or have this in place I think that's very reasonable for us to be in that position, there's a mention that they have to buy into this so there's no cost to the state. I think it's the right thing to do and I'd ask you to support the bill, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Martin rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. Members I don't disagree with the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Bishop's logic. I don't think we should be extending credit to folks who are taking care of a parent missionaries, doing other admirable things. The distinction between those wonderful pursuits and the peace corp though, is that the peace corp, like the military is a federal entity where people sign out to actually serve our country. And I would not agree with the characterization of Representative Bumgardener that we're somehow though equating service in the peace core with service in the military. I made my choice and I think it was the right one. At the same time, the folks that do sign up for the peace core are performing a valuable service to the people of America by promoting our good name around the world. I think it's safe to say that the more work we have from folks who are in the peace core,

the less likely we have folks taken a shot at folks like Representative Horn in the air force or me in the army. But don't take it from me, take it from someone who has done a lot more for their country and stuck their neck a lot further out than I have. I wanna identify him. He doesn't have a position as far I'm aware on this bill and has no awareness of it, but he's a marine special operations officer. I think they call them raiders right now who's done multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think it's safe to say it's probably been responsible for more deaths of the enemies of this nation than about anyone I know and has worked on the Peace Corps was this or this. Something that gets overlooked. Peace Corps volunteers go to dangerous, [UNKNOWN] undeveloped places, and put themselves at risk to help people. They redefine a common term we use in the military alone and unafraid. Members this is something that we should do to folks who do put their necks on the line for our country. It doesn't cost us anything here in the state. It's just a way to acknowledge the contribution that they have made to our country so I'm glad to join this bi partisan group of Democrats and Republicans, veterans and civilians in supporting this bill. >> For what purpose does the lady from Surry Representative Stephens rise? >> To speak on the Bill. >> The lady has the forward to debate the Bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I too like Representative Bishop had the same concern. This is what we call nose from the camels tent. Where are we gonna stop? What about the Red Cross, what about the international services that are performed by Red Cross, what about the missionaries from the modern church who go out for two years at a time and serve an under-privileged areas, what about other volunteer services, what if you volunteered for the park service, what if? There is any number of plans we can just find in the same thing. Then there's the, I believe the fallacy, I'd be happy for somebody to tell me differently, that this will not cost the state anything. Well one, the state matches a portion of your retirement. And number two, the state provides retirees with health benefits. Where's the cost for those health benefits gonna be coming from? This was a benefit for a people who were employed by the state. If it's a federal program why can't they buy into the federal system? So I'd be happy if anybody can answer any of those questions of how it really may not cost us in the future. >> For what purpose does the lady from Carteret, Representative McElraft rise? >> To speak on the bill. >> Lady has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I have family members that are in the Peace Corps. But I also have a husband that spent 30 years in the Marine Corps. And I looked at every one of those [UNKNOWN] yesterday that I was speaking to in my Memorial Day service and how can I tell them the most military veteran friendly state is now gonna take away, not take away from you but to make it equal to you, what someone else is serving in the Peace Corps. And not to say anything against the Peace Corps, but you're right. How about Samaritans, purse? How about other organisations that are serving Syria right now, trying to help the Christians over there, how about those folks? This is a camel's nose under the tent. We have allowed our military to have free in state tuition, we have done lots of things for our military. We have a department of veterans affair that we never had before. This is a military friendly state, we don't need to let anyone else in the retirement system even though they say it's not gonna cost, I do agree there is a cost to in the long run, I would like to have [UNKNOWN] to let me know about that cuz I think he would be the expert there, but I would like to say that I think that this is a slap in the face to our veterans right now because the next group is gonna want to get in there just like this group did. I would like to change my vote. >> Are there any other non-controversial bills the Speaker could add to today's calendar? For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Hall, rise? >> To speak on the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen I certainly don't feel slapped in the face. I really feel we should go ahead and pass this measure. I think if you look at the bill and look at the law as it now stands if you're state emplyee or you're in the state system this allow you to buy additional credible service time. To buy again it's revenue neutral it doesn't cost the system anything and if you go back and you look at the statute I think it's 135-4, you'll see all the exceptions in there where it allow you to bind to the system once you become a state employee.

Now if you had local government service and you become a state employee you can buy in. You weren't in the military. You didn't go to a foreign land, you didn't do any dangerous service. You had just previously been a local government employee. If you were a state employee and you had some time that you had workers [UNKNOWN] coverage during a period of time, you can also buy in for that service. So this has never been restricted solely to government service in the military. We're still a military friendly state. I don't think we're sacrificing our reputation as that, but we also recognize sacrifice via citizens to advance our cause. So I'd ask that you support it. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dollar rise? >> To debate the motion. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Folks,members of the house, I have certainly looked very closely at the pension issue,cuz this is something that we have to fund every year,we have to re access where we are with the pension and as has been mentioned by a couple of speakers. This just simply allows someone to buy at full cost as the bill says, at full cost additional service years corresponding to the years. In this case that they were in Peace Corps. I don't think that this is pitted against any other group. Has been mentioned there's actually a list of various things for which people can buy at full cost time into the system. And this only applies to someone who is in this retirement system. And it was asked a moment ago about does this have any effect on the state health plan. No, this has no impact whatsoever on the state health plan. This is the pension plan. People buying time at full cost. And I would just argue with you. I wouldn't argue with you but I would just proffer for your consideration. This actually helps us as a recruitment tool for very well qualified people to come in to the system if they stay with the system, and they stay with us long enough they have an opportunity to potentially buy some additional time in the system. So it's actually at least marginally a good recruitment tool for the state and does not cost our pension system anymore money. They have to pay the full freight for the actuarial/g cost. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> For what purpose does the lady from Surry, Representative Stevens rise? >> To see if Representative Dollar can answer a question for me. >> Does the gentleman from Wake yield to the lady from Surry? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Thank you, Representative Dollar and maybe you can answer my question completely. I understand it may cost a pinch on plenty of the additional dollars, but doesn't it put more people into the retirement system quickly getting state health benefits and so the question is, who pays for the state health benefits for retirees? >> State Health plan benefits, that's totally different. That's completely different matter, so those two are not tied together. >> Follow up? >> Does the gentleman yield an additional question? >> I do. >> He yields. >> But these people are going to buy into the system and they're simply going to buy pay toward the retirement system. My question is that these are people who will five years earlier than their designated service, start drawing State Health Benefits, which include the health plan. So how does the health plan get any additional compensation? >> Well, the State Health Plan would not need any additional compensation cuz you're going to have to as you mentioned. They're not gonna need additional dollars in that regard for the state health plan. And of course once you retire, you get to the age of Medicare. State health plan's only a second pair anyway. Medicaid medicare rather, medicare ends up being your provider of first order. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Orange Representative Meyer arise. >> Thank you Mr Speaker I'd like to speak on the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Ladies and gentlemen first I'd like to offer an apology for making an indelicate argument to set off this debate. My intention in talking about the equivalency of adding this to our current statutes and bringing up the military was simply to say that this is something that is already permissible for other forms of service to our Federal government. The military is one of those forms, we also make this same provision

available to anyone who works for the federal government and then comes to work for the state government. It's a bad week to use the military as an example and to try and make an equivalency, I didn't intend to do so and I apologize for doing so, I certainly respect the unique role that our military plays around the world. I would also like to point out that the purchase of full cost as Representative Dollar just argued means that they have to pay the cost of their share and the share of the state purchase and this are people who are already in the retirement system. They are already gonna retire from our system. Those are all things for you to consider in the future cuz I think we have a motion from Representative Hardister if I could request from the speaker to call Representative Hardister >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Guilford, Representative Hardister, rise? >> To speak on the bill a second time. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill a second time. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members I apologize for the debate. I didn't expect this kind of debate to take place. In pensions and retirement this morning we presented the bill. There was virtually no discussion. It seemed to not be controversial I think pretty quickly after we presented the bill a motion was made to give a favorable report. And so here we are. This has actually been an interesting discussion. I do support the bill, but at this point I think we might need to provide more consideration. Therefore it might not be a bad idea to send this back to committee to have [INAUDIBLE] >> Gentleman is recognized for a motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I make a motion that the bill be re-referred to the committee on pensions and retirement. >> Without objection, so ordered. I'm gonna ask our pages to come forward please. And as they're coming forward, Representatives Mcneil and Ross are recognized to send forth committee report, the clerk will read. >> Representatives Mcneil and Ross, [INAUDIBLE] and retirements committee report, house bill 1134, administrative charges retirement system treasurer, favorable committee substitute on favorable regional bill, referred to appropriations. Original bill on favorable calendar committee substitute, favorable will refer to the committee on appropriations. [BLANK_AUDIO] I would ask our Pages when you hear your name called to please step forward so that the members of the house will know who you are. The Clerk will introduce the Pages. >> Gracen Pioius/g, Clinton County, Wil Clark Buncombe County, is a nephew of Representative John Hager and grandson of former Representative James Mcrory Clerk [BLANK_AUDIO] Austin [INAUDIBLE] Lake County, [INAUDIBLE] Lake County, Thomas Grap, Pit County, Lee Johnson Wake county. Noore Leged/g, Wake county, Scholar Moore, North Hampton county, Carlos Ozolio/g Wake County, Thomas Owens, Wake county Matthew Orleans Wake County, Bernard Ralph Renderford County, Darren Stephens Cumberland County, Emily Witford Wake County, and [INAUDIBLE] Jackson Sang/g >> Members I would ask all of us to please join in welcoming our pagers here this week. Pagers we wish you the best. >> [APPLAUSE] >> You may return to your post. [BLANK_AUDIO] Notices and announcements. For what purpose does the lady from Wilson, Representative Farmer-Butterfield rise? >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. One announcement. >> Just a moment. [SOUND] The house is still in session. The lady has the floor for an announcement. >> Thank you. I am pleased to announce today the formation of a joint intellectual development disabilities caucus. The house and senate have established a joint bi-partisan caucus to address the needs of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, their families and the people who support their community. The joint caucus shall review policy changes and will work to understanding

these are people with intellectual development disabilities. In the policy areas of Medicaid, education, social justice and the list goes on and on. The caucus will act as a legislative think tank to develop legislative knowledge in multiple policy areas. The three primary objectives of the caucus are one, review federal and state level policy and address it's impact on the people of North Carolina with intellectual development disabilities. Two, develop a legislative caucus agenda that addresses the needs of people, their families and support providers. And three what was either conceived and service provision groups across the state to provide recommendations for the creation of a legislative agenda focused on people with intellectual development disabilities. I want to thank Julia Adams who does that with no fans or her untiring assistance and formulate the joint legislative caucus and I wanna thank the Speaker for formulating the joint DD caucus of this staff and I think my coach here Representative Merlin Abler wants to add to this announcement. >> For what purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Abler rise. >> To speak to the developmental disabilities. >> Regulars have been asked to speak to a point of personal privilege. >> Thank you Mr Chair, ladies and gentlemen we represent a lot of different districts, some of us have the beach and some of us have the mountains and some of have the pig-mat, some of us have large military installations. Some of us have great tourism attractions, but one thing we all have in common, are constituents who have loved ones who surfer from intellectual and developmental disabilities. And I know, I've seen many of you high-tail and run when we mention medicare, and several rags. And one of the things that we hope to do with this caucus is to make something that is so complicated and so scary and so off putting because it is complicated, understandable, so that you'll be able to better serve your constituents and their families who have developmental disabilities in their families. I have not been personally impacted in this way, the disability that I've had the misfortune to deal with was an accident which a loved one was paralyzed. But there's a lot of factors that go into with dealing with a loved one whose not able to participate in the way that the majority public is. But that does not mean they cannot produce, that does not mean they do not have value and that does not mean that we would be a better society by bringing them to their full potential and I feel like the caucus that Representative former battlefield has so graciously asked me to join her in, and that we've had so many hardworking, dedicated people, meeting and talking with each of us over the years about, will go a long way to bringing in to fruition, the benefits the productive lives of so many of North Carolina's development. disabled people and I'd ask all of you to please join us. Keep a lookout for meetings, where we will give you educational input and look for input from you as you deal with your constituents to help you become a better representative for them. Thank you very much. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Johnston, Representative Daughtry rise? >> To make an announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> The judiciary one committee will meet tomorrow at 12:30 in our usual meeting place to consider two bills, Senate Bill 570 and Senate Bill 734. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Onslow, Representative Shepard rise? >> For a moment of personal privilege. >> The gentleman is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. >> I wanna say we did this last week and so I was neglecting that. But anyway my seatmate had a birthday this past week and being that he's a UNC [UNKNOWN] and graduated from there I think it's only befitting to him that they went to National Championships this week to celebrate Representative Bert Jones birthday.So I like you all to join me in giving him a happy birthday.>> [APPLAUSE] >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland Representative

Floyd arise. >> Inquire the chair please. >> The gentleman is recognized by an inquiry. >> Mr. Speaker, as you have so diligently done today, and you look at bills that are non controversial that you bring forward to the current place on the calendar for today, and as we move through this week, could you give us your vision as we move forward. >> Well I have to add in debate is non controversial bill, I don't know how I acted, I have a handicap on this bills this days, but I would anticipate that we will have, that we will have a few bills on tomorrows calendar, that maybe some bills coming out the J committee and I think there's a health committee meeting tomorrow. If those bills truly appear to be non controversial the Chair may seek to add those to the calendar to keep Thursday light, but if they are controversial we will try to avoid that. It's the intention of the Chair to have the session at 2 O'clock tomorrow and of course tomorrow is Wednesday and so on Thursday we would probably have, if we can, an 11 AM session. Just depends on what's going on with the other committees. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Luebke, rise? >> To see if Representative Stam would yield for a question. >> Does the gentleman from Lincoln yield to the gentleman from Durham? >> I do Mr Speaker. >> He yields. >> Thank you Mr Speaker, I am Representative Saine, I recall last Wednesday I indicated there would be a Finance meeting tomorrow, is that still the case? >> Thank you Mr Speaker. >> Please sir. >> Thank you. That is what we had anticipated although we felt like it said it would be a little more efficient and has something first look at at this point in time, so there will not be a finance committee meeting in the morning. Just the finance chairs our normal Wednesday morning meeting just to consider what's before the committee. Further notice will come forward. Thank you sir. >> Thank you for explaining. For what purpose does the gentleman from Scotland, Representative Pierce arise? >> Announcement Mr. Speaker. >> You're recognized to make an announcement. >> Committee [INAUDIBLE] will be having a very very important meeting in room 1425 after we adjourn. Very important. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Forsyth, Representative Lambeth rise? >> For an announcement. >> You're recognized for an announcement. >> The health committee will meet in the morning at nine o'clock. It's a very important meeting. I would like to invite any of you who would be interested in sitting in and listening. This will be the waiver request that we will submit to the federal government for our Medicaid reform program. We've also invited our Senate colleagues. So if you're free in the morning at nine you might find this very interesting update for all of us that are working hard on the reform plan. Room 544. >> Thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Pitt, Representative Murphy, rise? >> To make an announcement. >> You're recognized to make an announcement. >> Ladies and gentlemen, skin cancer is commonly diagnosed cancer in the United States today. One in five us will each get it. I personally am a melanoma survivor. I contracted melanoma 10 years ago and by the grace of God caught it very early. The wonderful colleagues at the American Academy of Dermatology are gonna come for a screening tomorrow from nine to three and we'll see as little of you or as much of you as you so desire. >> Too much information but thank you. >> I would encourage everybody to go. No one is immune from this. Melanoma is a lethal killer. I've seen people die from melanomas that are 3 millimeters in size. So if you have time from three to five tomorrow, come show your skin. >> Thank you for that graphic thought. Any further notices and announcements. Representative Torbett is recognized. >> Mr. Speaker, I do now move that the House adjourn to reconvene Wednesday, June 1 subject to messages from the Senate, committee reports re-referral of bills and resolutions, to reconvene Wednesday, June 1st at 2 PM. >> Representative Torbett moves, seconded by Representative Howard, that the house be now adjourned to reconvene Wednesday June 2nd at 2 PM, subject to messages from the senate committee reports and re-referrals of bills and resolutions. Those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed? Motion carried. The house stands adjourned, and thank you for your kind attention. [SOUND] [BLANK_AUDIO]