Okay, I think we're all here we're now on the edge we get started. I'm John faircloth, I'm Representative from district 61 in Guilford County and I'm a former chief of police long time in law enforcement and have a great love and appreciation for that profession and I got some good news, three or four weeks ago when I was invited to attend a meeting with the association of the chiefs and police, which I was a part of when it first started that everything and at that meeting there were a room full of chicks[sp?] these that are here today and many more, all across North Carolina who were concerned about what was on the news media in the evening and what they were hearing from their folks at home and the things that were going on literally in the world that affect the relationship between law enforcement officers and the people that they serve these chiefs were working hard through the day, addressing what the situation is as they saw it, what it may become as some would reject, and what they needed to do to get ahead of the curve and be effective in addressing this on going change in what we are saying in relations between communities, to people in communities and their chief police officials. I was so moved that day to see these guys were not sitting by and saying oh, it's somebody else's fault, what they were saying is, we need to look at ourselves, we need to look at our community, we need to look at everything about how we condition a new police officer to become serving the community and how to do it in the appropriate way and they have taken a step to move forward, I think actively in addressing some of these problems and I want to recognize, if I may, Chief Vince Hore from Cornelius, who's the president of the Chief's Association this time he's going to talk to you a little bit about what their program entails, chief? I'm glad to have you with us. Faircloth the North Carolina Chief Association we're not a labor group we'll, we're really argue for public safety, we argue for our community and that's one thing you need to balance. We're really looking at our communities to see what needs to be done, you know a lot of police officers are stressed every night when they see things on TVs, sometimes they're seeing police getting attacked unjustly, and sometimes they're seeing police officers do bad things and both of them make it very difficult to do their job. So what we did we put together a comittee we had 62 come out and during this form where we had some very frank discussions with the black [xx], litters, and about different bills and different things that's going on and we've realized from that that we have our needs that we need to look at. We are all from different cultures, we're all different people and we all have different influences and we need to be very apprehensive about examining herself. So what we came up with was three primary principals and one we all heard before, community relations and convenient policing, why would we go back and a topi that has been discussed before and been used before and I think wit the things are going today we realize that community relations is something these be ongoing and be continuous and each agency needs to mandate that they communicate with the community. Have you spoken with your Minority Leader have you spoken with groups? Candidly about bias and about prejudicial issues on both sides so those are the things we're trying to encourage through community policing none biased policing is the second and what we're doing there is we're trying to take a look internally at things that calls us to react differently to different people. Again, we're all from different cultures, do we have hidden biosis that we don't know about do we treat a suspect different because he's a suspect, do we treat individuals different because if color, it may not just be color, it may not be the gender, but how are we doing this? We also have to realize that this has to be done at the fundamental basic law enfrocement level. We can't just look at this as a temporary program of someone that need spt be done once it
needs to be a fundamental way of how we build police officers. The other thing that, the third item we want to look at is a comprehensive look at use of our strength. We have what we call user force contanium[sp?] it's being used years, but we believe we need to look more comprehensively and talk about the escalation, to look at the big picture of not just firms and legal issues and you are E mailing your people, but look at the escalation and ways that we can revive our user force files, and what we're asking for on those two items of bias leasing and user force is that Jess Academy they granted some funding to develop some curriculum to do just that I will never buy to understand that this group that is behind me and other many members that couldn't be here today, we really are concerned about help people think how we're police, but we're also concerned whether we are being biased and whether we're treating people fairly doing the right thing. The issue that we all have to get around is that we're not going to fix it if we don't talk about it, and we're not going to fix it if we're not honest when we're having these conversations. So, this is an effort for us to start looking at ourselves we cant't control the bias that we feel that is sometime against police, we are certainly defensive of that when it's time to be, but we can't look in inside ourselves and see what we might can be doing differently. The worst thing that can happen in what's going on today, police get gunshots of going into these minority communities, where we have a lot of victims, and then more victimization that calls the police be afraid to react we have to understand buses, see if they affect us and we have to understand how to address that so that officers feel comfortable going into these communities Go ahead, Any questions. I wonder if I could ask representative a question. How does this type of discussion reflects in the budget you've been talking about inJPS. I heard you talk about focus more on training officers to handle this situations in putting money behind, could you describe that a little bit. Certainly here, representative Harley is with me here as well, she's also a coach here on [xx] and the justice took care of me and the standards commission started back in 1972 as a result of 1971 legislation, and that's the first time that we've ever had training statewide selection in training applied to the law enforcement community, it was very rundamental at that time and no one recalls I was the first director of that back in the day and it has moved forward very well through the years, but I believe as chief Horle and other chiefs believe that there is some part of the picture that we've missed. There's some part of the picture that deals particularly with those relationships between the law enforcement establishment and the neighborhood it serves. So those others in the working on the budget have included funding and we're discussing that we'll probably finish this afternoon when our part of included funding for the justice academy and for the standards commission to the look at this training module to bring some folks on board who can help do the teaching and to enable their new officers to get the kind of finding they will accomplish what we have been talking about, so the is going to be in there and we certainly wish well we will do the best we could to help. Further question? Yes sir. Somebody knows there is bill out there that will create citizen review boards, obviously nobody is going to complain about training, training is going to be good across the board, everybody so going to love training. What happens when something bad does happen as it has in many other states, one of the chiefs can come on and review bond idea and all body cameras where the chief stand we're opposed to a mandated civilian review boards, we think that's up to the individual Could you sat that a little louder please. I say we're opposed to mandated civilian review boards, we play that as a local community decision and some of them have them, some of them don't but I think most agencies support body cameras,
we're in agreement, need funding to do that but we're very cautious about trying to legislate the method and the means by which those cameras are turned on and turned off and what's released and what's not released and the reason is a lot of people don't understand that. We're going into situations to where there's some very products moments that we get when we walk into somebodies house and it's not always appropriate to have video, it's just not, it's a difficult great area to work we don't think that should be legislated, we think that they should provide us with the means but let us focus on the method and of course, the courts overtime will sort out the proper way to go there. Chief, if I might comment on the body camera situation. We do have a study bill in cooperation with the chiefs and the sheriffs, we have a study bill that will study for a one year period the whole question of body cameras and policy, and find the right place for the state to fit in this mix, what should be state [xx], what should be left to the local governments, what should be the proper handling of the video that comes out of that, there's a big storage problem involved. So all of these things will be a part of the study as we go through, and we expect that to then next year have us in a position to react to the needs of the police community and the general community in developing the proper policies at state level. [xx] Chief? Yes Sir. That does it for us, thank you so much for coming.